@TheSwordThain : Thousands of american citizens (seamen), cargo and ships were at that time in Muslim barbaresque captivity. The only way to rapatriate these seamen to their families was to win the confidence of the Muslim barbaresque powers, and the only way to do this was to convince those Muslims that America was different from European nations. The Christian Founding Fathers understood the context, meaning, and the strategic, diplomatic and expedient nature of this negotiation.
The bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason & right. It still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally passed; and a singular proposition proved that it's protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure. . .''
2 - ''from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it's protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination.''
@TheRationalthinker Rephrase: America is a Christian Nation: TRUE or FALSE? (By asking "America is not a Christian Nation, you're going to trip people up on a potential double negative answer. K.I.S.S.)
Green Dragon" about the environmental threat to Christianity. Barton says, "Environmental science simply does not have a good track record, not at all. Their false assertions are based more on their own morbid fears, not on any good science." Now that he has distorted history, he is off to clear up the error of climate scientists.
So in 1797 when the Treaty of Tripoli with the Muslim nations of Northern Africa that says "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" was signed by President Adams after having passed unanimously and without debate by the Senate - that meant that the government of the US was based on Christianity?
Or maybe just because some founding fathers were believers does not have anything to say about what the basis of their ideal gov't was.
Exactly tpique1! Everytime I see an unbeliever state something like this, they conveniently never state what they are referencing. Never any facts presented; just a statement of their personal knowledge. Kind of defeats their reasoning right from the get-go.
whoo689 - have you read the Bible or just picked through it? Did you hear someone mention a passage without looking for yourself? Have you read and studied the whole Bible in context? Do you know that it was written in 3 languages?
David Barton, laaaawwwlll.
/watch?v=ewwWM4psFo8
l337pwnage 6 months ago
@TheSwordThain : Thousands of american citizens (seamen), cargo and ships were at that time in Muslim barbaresque captivity. The only way to rapatriate these seamen to their families was to win the confidence of the Muslim barbaresque powers, and the only way to do this was to convince those Muslims that America was different from European nations. The Christian Founding Fathers understood the context, meaning, and the strategic, diplomatic and expedient nature of this negotiation.
Durandal1492 6 months ago in playlist Issues: God in America
1 - Autobiography - by Thomas Jefferson
The bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason & right. It still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally passed; and a singular proposition proved that it's protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure. . .''
jfsfrnd 8 months ago
2 - ''from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it's protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination.''
jfsfrnd 8 months ago
"[T]he Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"
-Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, signed into law by President John Adams, founding father and former Church deacon.
TheSwordThain 8 months ago
@TheRationalthinker Rephrase: America is a Christian Nation: TRUE or FALSE? (By asking "America is not a Christian Nation, you're going to trip people up on a potential double negative answer. K.I.S.S.)
rexy5 8 months ago
Green Dragon" about the environmental threat to Christianity. Barton says, "Environmental science simply does not have a good track record, not at all. Their false assertions are based more on their own morbid fears, not on any good science." Now that he has distorted history, he is off to clear up the error of climate scientists.
TouchOfGreatness 1 year ago
So in 1797 when the Treaty of Tripoli with the Muslim nations of Northern Africa that says "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" was signed by President Adams after having passed unanimously and without debate by the Senate - that meant that the government of the US was based on Christianity?
Or maybe just because some founding fathers were believers does not have anything to say about what the basis of their ideal gov't was.
S201676 1 year ago
Exactly tpique1! Everytime I see an unbeliever state something like this, they conveniently never state what they are referencing. Never any facts presented; just a statement of their personal knowledge. Kind of defeats their reasoning right from the get-go.
whoo689 - have you read the Bible or just picked through it? Did you hear someone mention a passage without looking for yourself? Have you read and studied the whole Bible in context? Do you know that it was written in 3 languages?
Saddlemomma 2 years ago 2
See NWO Solution on YOUTUBE, 7/4/09 Send these NWO demons back to HELL
Godisyoursolution 2 years ago