Subway Challenge Part 2

Joel Korte discusses the Subway Challenge and his experiences at the American Institute for Stuttering at the 2008 American Speech Language

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[stutteringexpert]

I like how Carl Herder sits there and acts as if he is really in control of helping his client not stutter like he is a real professional or something, This is all a fantasy just like the "treatment" that AIS provides which is absolutely based upon nothing scientific at all but on the New Age concepts of the Option Institute which is really a cult that the founder of AIS was addicted to and got her ideas for stuttering "therapy" from.

[MrJanester]

Oh, Carl Herder is there from AIS so Greg is saying all the things Carl has taught him to say and Greg is saying all the things Carl wants him to believe. Is that how Carl handles his life, in unrealistic ways and in ways that don't work? We can only hope he believes this himself and does this himself. THe founder of AIS completely believed in the Option Institute concepts and developed a program around these concepts for stutterers. Too bad it doesn't work but she is famous so it worked.

[MrJanester]

Continued: Greg himself admits he needs to reconnect to other people who stutter, Is this the best that the American Institute for Stuttering (AIS) can offer their clients like Greg here, have them continue talking to other stutterers like they did in the program? Who is going to wait in real life for Greg to get past a difficult word or more? Yes, yes I said it, it is the truth, Greg himself says that it is only when he attends stuttering events that all the good feelings from AIS come back.

[MrJanester]

IT is good to hear that he feels better about himself when he stutters and has long blocks and that his struggles will continue and not to judge himself and have a positive attitude but this is really only true around other people who stutter, that is, people who understand. Even though it would be nice that all people could accept his stuttering and he could feel more relaxed about it but this is unreal. AIS uses Option Institute concepts that don't apply to stutterers.

[MrJanester]

I think it was funny and very courageous for the people to be humorous about when he stuttered badly on the "d" word and they said he "still had good eye contact" but one major feature of the AIS program is maintaining eye contact in order to increase fluency and good feelings about yourself. But in this case he maintained good eye contact but it did not help fluency at all. Look, this is sad, these people are repeating all the things they learned IN THE HOPE it will work, This is so sad........

[MrBruce711]

This video shows how AIS took the Hollins program and uses the vibrational contour target from the Hollins program and combines it with the group therapy aspects of the Option Institute to produce their AIS program. This might work but not in the real world since the vast majority of situations in the real world are not group therapy sessions! I do understand that stutterers being able to talk for the 1st time about their speech is important and very novel but this does not lead to fluency.

[fattymcgee122]

That one guy with the glasses sounds like Jimmy from South Park

[MrBruce711]

Carl,

You asked people in the intensive to throw out words that relate to a good communicator and they didn't mention fluency.

When I came up with a word I didn't think of the word fluency because it WAS GIVEN that a good communicator already was fluent.

No one minds an occasional repeat of a sound or word. Obama does this a lot but people would rather listen to him than to either Joel or the person with the PHD on this blog or ME.. Not being mean, I stutter, trying to be real.

[MrBruce711]

The AIS program does help you feel better about yourself and your stuttering but they do not provide a really good fluency technique.

The AIS program allows you to accept yourself but they also tell you that there is no cure for stuttering, no program that will really help you talk a lot more fluently so their program is there best hope. AIS will tell you that the Hollins program does not work as well as they say and a lot of the AIS program is based upon this.

But is this true exactly?

[turupus]

Strange as it sounds, no matter how much you stutter, you stutter so gracefully. You,re definitely special