I'm convinced, if Switzerland had not taken arrangements to defend, the Nazis had occupied tha country in spite of the cooperation.
By the way: Oerlikon produced for my knowledge no artillery cannons. The largest caliber of Oerlikon-production was 35 mm. Oerlikon was specialized in anti-aircraft and aircraft guns.
England supplied with ship convoys Hawker Hurricane fighter aircraft to Murmansk. Some of them were also armed with 20 mm Oerlikon cannons.
The mountains were, with kilometers of connecting tunnels, countless command, artillery and infantry bunkers, hospitals, ammunition, fuel and supply depots and aircraft hangars hollowed out downright. Also have been created countless prepared explosive objects and enhanced terrain objects, airfields were built in narrow valleys.
Yes, they really wanted to defend the country against the Nazis!
By the way, the Swiss army was only a defense army. An infantry army with some artillery, little ant-tank, little anti-aircraft, perhaps hundred and fifty fighter plain and almost without tanks.
There was no "great army" of which you write!!
Would else General Guisan except to a few brigades the whole army moved back into the Alps, into the legendary "Reduit"?
You ask me if I'm crazy or trolling you. No, I dont. Peace. I have not sought this dispute.
You have insulted our country in general.
We know that many things did not work correctly in our country in WW II, this I have already written to you.
Can you therefore condemn whole Switzerland?
Is my grandfather and hundreds of thousands of military service-providing people guilty? My grandfather was a simple farmer, not a banker and not the Oerlikon factory owner.
End of discussion here ok? Yes yes: Germans, Americans, Britains and Russians all use to fucking afraid of the GREAT swiss "army". Swiss never cooperated, never did wrong things, swiss are holy cows with a K31. And they only need to shoot twice in order to stop every agression. Bye
Worked up you said. Thank you! In order to save own ass, you and other "small" nations of Europe use to help Wehrmacht on their way to kill Russians. Our woman, children, old and poor were burned in their homes, shooted down with those Mauser rifles mady by CZ in Brno and those Artillery-Canons made by swiss Oerlikon factory. My grandpapa die in 1944, our family lost 50% of its relatives. Our home burned. And you speak about crimes of the Russian Army? Are you crazy or just trolling me?
I do not want to degrade the performance of the Sovjets and the Red Army. Not at all!
I've learnd to respect other people, countries, cultures and religions. I would never accuse the today's Russians the countless war crimes that their ancestors committed seventy years ago!
But you hold yourself entitled to judge over our country in a insulting way!
My country crushed 70% of Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe in 4 years. My country conquered Germany, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Moldova, Austria, Finnland and Bulgaria. My countrymen were the only ones who entered Berlin and destroyed Reichstag. Now i think they HAD to move a little further.
@TelPrank 4th.
I'm convinced, if Switzerland had not taken arrangements to defend, the Nazis had occupied tha country in spite of the cooperation.
By the way: Oerlikon produced for my knowledge no artillery cannons. The largest caliber of Oerlikon-production was 35 mm. Oerlikon was specialized in anti-aircraft and aircraft guns.
England supplied with ship convoys Hawker Hurricane fighter aircraft to Murmansk. Some of them were also armed with 20 mm Oerlikon cannons.
As I said, peace. No harm.
TheRusty58 3 months ago
@TelPrank 3rd.
The mountains were, with kilometers of connecting tunnels, countless command, artillery and infantry bunkers, hospitals, ammunition, fuel and supply depots and aircraft hangars hollowed out downright. Also have been created countless prepared explosive objects and enhanced terrain objects, airfields were built in narrow valleys.
Yes, they really wanted to defend the country against the Nazis!
TheRusty58 3 months ago
@TelPrank 2nd.
By the way, the Swiss army was only a defense army. An infantry army with some artillery, little ant-tank, little anti-aircraft, perhaps hundred and fifty fighter plain and almost without tanks.
There was no "great army" of which you write!!
Would else General Guisan except to a few brigades the whole army moved back into the Alps, into the legendary "Reduit"?
TheRusty58 3 months ago
@TelPrank 1st.
You ask me if I'm crazy or trolling you. No, I dont. Peace. I have not sought this dispute.
You have insulted our country in general.
We know that many things did not work correctly in our country in WW II, this I have already written to you.
Can you therefore condemn whole Switzerland?
Is my grandfather and hundreds of thousands of military service-providing people guilty? My grandfather was a simple farmer, not a banker and not the Oerlikon factory owner.
TheRusty58 3 months ago
End of discussion here ok? Yes yes: Germans, Americans, Britains and Russians all use to fucking afraid of the GREAT swiss "army". Swiss never cooperated, never did wrong things, swiss are holy cows with a K31. And they only need to shoot twice in order to stop every agression. Bye
TelPrank 3 months ago
Worked up you said. Thank you! In order to save own ass, you and other "small" nations of Europe use to help Wehrmacht on their way to kill Russians. Our woman, children, old and poor were burned in their homes, shooted down with those Mauser rifles mady by CZ in Brno and those Artillery-Canons made by swiss Oerlikon factory. My grandpapa die in 1944, our family lost 50% of its relatives. Our home burned. And you speak about crimes of the Russian Army? Are you crazy or just trolling me?
TelPrank 3 months ago
@TelPrank 2nd.
Again: We have worked up our history from WW II. We know that man things went wrong!
But: You have to consider the situation of the small state surrounded by the Nazis.
TheRusty58 3 months ago
@TelPrank 1st.
I do not want to degrade the performance of the Sovjets and the Red Army. Not at all!
I've learnd to respect other people, countries, cultures and religions. I would never accuse the today's Russians the countless war crimes that their ancestors committed seventy years ago!
But you hold yourself entitled to judge over our country in a insulting way!
TheRusty58 3 months ago
@TheRusty58
My country crushed 70% of Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe in 4 years. My country conquered Germany, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Moldova, Austria, Finnland and Bulgaria. My countrymen were the only ones who entered Berlin and destroyed Reichstag. Now i think they HAD to move a little further.
TelPrank 3 months ago
@TelPrank Yes
I see, you are on your holy mission!! YOUR truth is the only one!! Everything else is scrap!! Is not it?
But I tell you, you obviously have no idea how the situation of Switzerland during the WW II was!!!! Absolutely NO IDEA!!
As I said: We have worked up our WW II history!
DID YOUR COUNTRY THIS TOO????
If not - shut up!!! You bore with your shit!!
TheRusty58 3 months ago