To Tame the Wild Crocoduck: Salute to potholer54 & WildwoodClaire1

Just a walkthrough of the early stages of the DMCA attack on potholer54 and WildwoodClaire1 by ferocious Golden Crocoduck nominee Amenakin, replete with mirrors of all the DMCA'd material. It seems potholer54 didn't recognize he had a wild crocoduck by the tail!

Amenakin's use of DMCAs in this way is not only reprehensible censorship for mere criticism but also a tad on the illegal side. Although it began with this crocoduck lady conniving YouTube into removing potholer54's videos, it has ended with the DMCA'd videos restored and potholer54 having it in his purview to pursue civil penalties against her and possibly YouTube itself for violation of its own "Safe Harbor" policy... And all that because she doesn't like her mistakes on evolution being pointed out...

Providing legitimate criticism of women for their publicly aired ideas and views on science is a demonstration of respect for women as people, fully including them in the public discourse even if they're flat-earth wrong, particularly when the criticism is as reasonable, inoffensive, and corrective as potholer54's approach to Amenakin. To be against such criticism is to be in favor of a backward notion of women as overemotional, fragile egos in constant need of pampering and sheltering... Humanity is capable of far greater things.

Providing the religious with criticism of their publicly aired ideas and views on science is simply called peer review. If they don't like it, they should try being an actual scientist who endures such awful, merciless peer review for everything they assert in their field... except that scientists tend to have facts and evidence to back up their claims rather than race-baiting, deference to the supernatural, and sheer make-believe.

"If you mistake this for an attack on Islam, sorry, but you're an idiot. And if you complain about it on the forum- which you have every right to do- you become a whiny idiot... I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about those who comment without watching the video, without taking in or trying to understand what's being said... who foam at the mouth at an imaginary slight. Of course, I can understand where this sensitivity comes from: when there are other idiots on YouTube and public intolerance against Muslims is rampant, it's easy to retreat into a defensive posture and assume that a rebuttal of anything someone says is an attack on whatever religion she happens to hold. But learn to tell the difference. If you can't... then that polarizing gap is never going to be bridged." - potholer54 (from "Stop Whining")

Alas, the "other idiots" mentioned by potholer54 decided to respond to Amenakin's anti-democratic behavior by using his fora to spew racism, and he felt compelled to make a stand against that.

potholer54's anti-racist joint video with Amenakin and then "Final Word" on the matter of racism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNk8JpCB_dg&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-th-WcM3_mA&feature=channel_video_title

From potholer54's channel as of November, 2011:
UPDATE: Yes indeed, the blocked videos are back up! YouTube sent me an e-mail stating that the counter notifications will now be honored, but gave no explanation as to why. It could have been the threats of legal action, or simply the fact that someone in authority at YouTube has been alerted to the problem. My thanks to all of those who helped and all of those who offered money and support for a legal fund. You are now free to copy and distribute these videos without fear of a strike against you."

The restored videos and related potholer54 links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjnq_XgePik&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyG5M_xbg4k&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex8r_7nIKzk&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPdRg_DVSVA&feature=channel_video_title

potholer54's channels:
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks

wildwoodclaire1's channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WildwoodClaire1

AtheistAussie's video on the matter and channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYY9-FDZiTs
http://www.youtube.com/user/AtheistAussie

Whatistobe theme:
Video: Opening theme from "The Big Bang" show
Audio: Ben Harper's "I Believe in a Better Way"

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[DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs]

@bean2265 It's not quite so benign, no. It seems Muslims are not content to simply have their "views" criticized, as demonstrated in so many cases lately: killings in Afghanistan after the threatened Qu'ran burning, death threats over the printing of a Dutch cartoon lampooning Muhammed, the murder of Theo Van Gogh after he made a movie... What Amenakin did was an overreaction to simple criticism and an affront to free speech, while potholer54 violated no copyright and, mind you, was correct

[DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs]

@henzay As much as you may wish to believe this video inadvertently promotes her- and you're clearly a supporter of hers- wishful thinking does not make things so. In fact, the video interests people in evolution, potholer54's "Golden Crocoduck" series (and other work), science, free speech, the lameness and ultimate futility of creationists using DMCAs to suppress criticism, and in the facts involved. The DMCA itself shows that the attention potholer54 paid her was unwanted. So not a favor ;-)

[DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs]

@henzay Well, fortunately your peaceful religion doesn't allow for arguments... or violence... but I'll reply to your argument for legitimized domestic abuse. Any rationalization for it requires a view of women as dogs. The fact is that far worse than swats are routinely done to women under islam, and the not-so-peaceful religion lends a supernatural excuse for it. Other islamic law gives women only half the representation of men, so hardly a way to defend against "more than a tap" abuse

[henzay]

@DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs

men beating women anymore further than that light tap has nothing to do with islam but rather to do with themselves and their culture...

islam is the truth, which explains the many ppl who actually enter it... as i said go ask an imam in your mosque you'll find it...

anyone who seeks Allah (God) will surely find Him. I'm talking from experience bro, its not a force but yeah but dont judge islam by the muslims, study it ...

peace (Y)

[DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs]

@henzay Well, "we" know a different truth than, well, yours... so that's why it's not enough to merely believe: truth claims need a higher standard than conflicting religions offer. That also goes for women's interests for which... talking from a human's point of view... it's abhorrent to condone and even advocate abusing women. Perhaps you're invested in ignoring the excesses of spousal abuse committed due to that islamic tenet, but men given the "go ahead" do worse than a "very light tap"

[henzay]

@DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs

the answer you gave was rather confusing but anyhoo

my answers are not condtradictions... however, we know its the truth so thats enough for us to believe in it

and a light tap doesnt harm anyone ... talking from a womans point of veiw ... women in an argument and moving the hand away can be counted as beating lightly and just a very very light tap that won't even harm a baby but just read 'ibn kathir' the full commentry is in there :D

[DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs]

@henzay As to your claim of personal and religious repugnance to argumentativeness, I'd say the tenor and persistence of your three long video responses here rather overtly contradict that, and that surprises me nil. It is indeed the equivalent of saying that Islam is pro-women by disallowing leaving marks... while it OPENLY advocates beating women otherwise. Like a dolt I'd even defend you against a husband "marklessly" beating you, and you'd probably help him... because you don't fight...

[DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs]

@henzay I ain't havin a big massive argument either. However, I corrected your misinformation- which is ultimately all that potholer54 was doing regarding Amena. Your point is mistaken: when misinformation is disseminated it is most often instructive to correct it, particularly when free speech itself is at stake. This video presents her position thoroughly, so there's no need to investigate her further. Her supporters were already so, but she has also gained detractors- not quite promotion

[henzay]

@DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs

I aint commenting to have a big massive argument, just to explain the point...

you can't judge a religion by looking at it's people.. cus every religion has blacksheep...

when i said 'promoting' i meant that people are gonna be like okay, let's check her out then... so this aint exactly gonna stop people and yeah, she has supporters is that gonna stop them? but as i said i was here to explain a point, because i dont argue, (not that i dont kno anyfin jus aint a scholar)

[henzay]

@DwknsDnnttHtchnsHrrs

No arguments, no fights as my religion itself means peace and it teaches peace...

the verse of beating lightly is only if the other results fail and in this context beat doesnt mean batter her so that she is left broken... it is PROHIBITED for a man to hit her on the face or to break her skin or bones or to leave a mark on her skin, just a very light tap that won't cus any harm to her because as a woman myself we can go a lil crazy when a slight argument occurs

[henzay]

You're only promoting her, you do realise that right?

you critisice > people start becoming interested

interested people = promotion...

you're doing her a favour :)