toxic mimics

Toxic mimics...take a very real, necessary, creative, life-affirming, and most of all relational urge and turn it -- pervert it -- until it furthers not fully mutual relationships at all but instead superficial relationships based on domination and control. Toxic mimics...can cause people to forget those original relational urges, to forget mutuality is possible, to forget depth is possible, to believe control is natural and desirable.
~Derrick Jensen
http://endgamethebook.org/Excerpts/8-%20Abuse%20pt2.htm
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this video is dedicated to orphandrift
beloved cyberstalker and
toxic mimic extraordinaire :^)

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[iSmkoeBluntsToMyFace]

it is a good listen for sure, but i disagree that gathering on the internet is a toxic mimic in the same way that war is related to play. a lot of great fucking things have happened online- autodidacts like myself learn more online than from real life text books. and i've been to some great schools.

[pennilesscripple]

hey blunts thanks, and i'm glad you found this conversation valuable.

yes toxic mimics can be "great". if they were unpleasant, we wouldn't be drawn to them. but ultimately, they do not satisfy our core needs as humans.

online learning is a toxic mimic of authentic learning, which most likely you haven't experienced in our fractured culture--e.g., a close relationship with a mentor is much richer than any online experience, which is ultimately alienating, isolating, and hollow.

[HashyBee]

Why would you disable ratings? That's so cowardly. I can't respect that though I like many of your videos.

[pennilesscripple]

bee, consider that there are other reasons to disable ratings than cowardice

[clnmyjts]

very nice information..thank you... toxic mimic`s in candy..( some modern cartoons can even be a good teaching tool ) BUT only if we teach our kids what the toxic mimic are depicting, that is when they will hopefully learn to use and enjoy the real things our earth and our bodies are made of : )

[pennilesscripple]

thank you for your nice reply. of course the video was about how toxic mimics go way beyond candy and effect all of us, not just children

plus i want a world where we don't have to teach our children to be wary of corporations trying to manipulate them, and of society trying to enslave them

[prebanman]

Again, this isn't true of all medicines, there are no easy answers or blanket truths. Everything must be evaluated on a person to person basis and skepticism of all claims must be maintained (skepticism, not cynism).

whew.

[prebanman]

But I don't think that ALL "raw" or "natural" modern equivalencies are bad or even less fulfilling then the original. For example, I believe that social networks like facebook do a better job of connecting us and fulfilling that inborn need for socialization then the older equivalents of physical correspondence. Another example would be something like asprin, while there are natural alternatives (and I've tried some) the filtered and produced versions are more targeted and work better.

[prebanman]

I like the idea of exploring what needs/desires our modern conveniences are fulfilling or trying to fulfill. I think calling ALL modern equivalencies "toxic" is far too wide an analysis. Certainly that candy is a terrible thing to feed to children and actual raw berries a better alternative, it's a good example of that we all need to be aware of when and how we are being marketed too and what part of ourselves its appealing to.

[sootysparks]

Cool little thought video on Toxic Mimics. Thanks.

[theeartofseduction]

Very interesting, and soooooo true!

[iSmkoeBluntsToMyFace]

@pennilesscripple i completely understand what you mean, and i do agree. although i have learned a lot (in isolation almost), it is no substitute for a good professor. i've had one or two professors who were life changing pedagogues, they "reached" the students on a deep level. this type of interaction is too rare. and an invaluable thing. a good professor can change your whole perspective on life. but reading all of the books in the world can't compete with a charismatic, intelligent teacher.