Liberating The Serfs / Tibet, Human rights 3/3

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The True Face Of The Dalai Lama
by Kalovski at 4-2-8
http://www.rense.com/general81/faeeof.htm
[Part.21]
Real Communists vs. Phony Communists in Tibet




Mao unleashed the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution because he saw a great danger for the
people: The Chinese revolution that came to power in 1949 had stalled.
Powerful forces in the government and the Communist Party of China called for building a
"modern" China by focusing on orderly production. Though these forces called themselves
"communists," they really had no intention of going farther than abolishing feudalism and
building a powerful national state. They wanted a halt to revolutionary change.
Mao saw that their imitation of "efficient" capitalist methods would leave the masses of people
powerless. Their road would create a soulless, de-politicized, state-capitalist system similar
to the one that came to power in the Soviet Union under Khrushchev. Mao labeled such forces
"revisionists" and "phony communists." He said they were "bourgeois democrats turned capitalist
roaders." Their main national leaders in the mid-'60s were Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping.
In Tibet, this conflict between the revisionist line and Mao's line was not widely known among
the people­but it had been very sharp.
Mao's line called for a continuing revolutionary process conducted one step after another­a
process that fundamentally relied on and organized the masses of Tibetan people themselves.
Mao had urged patiently building revolutionary organization in Tibet during the 1950s. By the
early 1960s, a great alliance of Tibet's serfs and the People's Liberation Army (PLA) had
shattered the heart of the old oppressive society­liberating the masses from serfdom and
slavery, seizing land from the ruling class, and forbidding many old oppressive practices. It
was a great advance and application of Mao's line.
Mao believed the revolution had to advance beyond anti-feudal land reform if the masses of
people were to be truly liberated. He envisioned the systematic development of new, collective
organization in the countryside­so that the masses of peasants could pool their resources: dig
irrigation, build roads, create armed peasant militias and schools. Without socialist
collectivization, Mao believed, poor peasants would ultimately be oppressed by richer peasants
and new exploiters. This applied to Tibet, just as in the rest of China. Mao argued for a self-
reliant socialist industrial base in the Tibetan highlands to meet the needs of the people
there. And Mao envisioned a revolution of ideas that would uproot the hateful superstitions of
the past and on that basis bring about the flowering of a new liberating Tibetan culture.
But the powerful revisionist forces saw Tibet through very different eyes. They were not
interested in the revolutionary potential of Tibet's people. They wanted to develop "efficient"
systems for exploiting Tibet's wealth­so the region could quickly contribute to the "modern"
China they envisioned.
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Originally from http://www.bestcyrano.org/cyrano/?p=507.

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[newty82]

u forgot to mention the 450 million or so chinese that have been lifted above the UN Abject poverty line of around $100/yr since the economic reforms of 1978. There is no shangri la anywhere...but you can judge on a cost/benefit analysis whether certain things ended up in good or bad outcomes. I say 450 million is a pretty good number of people to lift out of poverty.

[Turtlechief99]

Perhaps. Except I think not everyone in communist-ruled China is a "big winner." The policy of "we rule first, you thank us, and your life will get better after you follow our policies" will be tested with time. The government does a good job of promoting unrestrained development while enforcing a gag-rule on social or political change from anywhere but the CCP. I'm not sure if that's really great.

[MrCaracas1000]

I hope they hang the Daili Lama from the highest tree /:

Mao was to nice to Deng Xioping and the Daili Lama

[MaIcoImZieI]

The arrogance of the Chinese to judge another culture. Just like everybody on this planet is arrogant to judge others. One cannot change the fact that we are all different and societies are different based upon different forms of values and developments. One cannot say one is better than the other. If I chose to live as a slave, then that is my choice.

[xbl2010]

@Turtlechief99

you say you live outside their "control", but this just means you don't know what happens "inside" China and Tibet, let alone you never know life in Tibet in the first part of the 20th century. I would gladly have you be my slave.

By the way, any idea whose control you are living under? If you really think you mind is not bombarded with propaganda, then you are ignorant to not see it.

[newty82]

Here is one thing that clearly isn't relative; china mobile its larget cell fone provider has~500 million subscribers. Regardless if the UN poverty $ line is relative or not I doubt many of these cellfone users are starving. Since u didn't have a reply to china's growth in population I'm assuming u concede to that point.

[meinLiebsterFeind]

Yes but a dollar then is 20 dollars now. Things are relative and your analogy isn't exactly correct either.

[newty82]

that thought process would work...however the population of china in the 1950's was ~560million today its 1.3 billion...i.e. it doubled. So, freeing up valuable resources? how? It clearly doesn't seem like it.

[meinLiebsterFeind]

This is a propaganda film, it is fragmented and full of non sequiturs. Maybe you agree with the producers -- but if you don't ask questions of this film, you're insane.

[meinLiebsterFeind]

Maybe he raised the standard of living for those 450 million today by eliminating millions in the past through starvation and genocide, thus freeing up valuable resources.

[newty82]

and feed them the CCP has done better than anyone else in history. Only 60 million left...go see how india's doing with their abject poverty situation that suits "western" liberal ideology; Democracy is starving their people. go see how many african despots are doing? even worse.

[newty82]

change your mindset for a wee while & get off your rich butt 4 a few & imagine living on $100/yr...what kind of life is that? constantly hungry (about da only thing appetizing are rats, people below da abject poverty line & there are ~60 million  in china 2day. They don't give a shit bout politics. they're behaviour & mindset is no different than a hungry animal. They don't know what youtube is, they don't CARE if the CCP is abusing their social or political "rights as long as the FEED THEM.