How Should We Then Live 1-1

Dr. Francis Schaeffer examines the Roman Age

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[kermy45]

Brilliant!!!

[criisduva]

unless youre a christian - bla bla? man, you either only watched this with your ignorant glasses on, or you dont understand english.. the point of the video is that your thinking shapes your doing. agreed? so which thinking is the best way to think? i challenge you to watch the whole series and then make up your mind. dont be a clown.

[JohnMichaelMatta]

@alpidrs Have you read the original texts?  They aren't in aramaic. Aramaic is a language.

New Testament: Mostly Greek.

Old Testament: Hebrew

[Mzungu451]

@alpidrs What books of the Old Testament are left out?

[alpidrs]

Unless you have read the original biblical texts in aramaic, you cannot claim that the bible is any kind of truth or word of god. The King James Bible, the one most commonly referred to, bears little relationship to the original texts and even leaves out whole books of the old testament. It is a lie written to reflect the political agenda of its time.

[jhall38]

@kmarnycyt1 Perhaps you've been looking in the wrong direction. Buber's vision of the Bible seems fruitful. He sees it as a record of a conversation between God and His people. Perhaps if you could play the believing game for just a bit, you might get in on it. What I am pointing to is relational ways of knowing. The conversations in the Bible are fascinating and still seem to have a life of their own. Have you been considering absolute truth out of the context of relationships?

[jhall38]

@kmarnycyt1 While I am a social constructivist, I do not have the certainty you seem to that there are no possibilities of certainty. If there are ultimate, absolute truths, perhaps they are to be discovered in messy contexts. This may be a call to consider other, relational ways of knowing. Take a look at "Women's Ways of Knowing" and Martin Buber on relationality.  Remember that it is a nasty thing to be charged with absolute relativism. Others have spoken of "qualified relativism".

[kmarnycyt1]

@jhall38 I agree with you. I must not have been very clear in my comment. I do think my particular philosophy has a context. I'm not criticizing the Bible for its messiness -- I accept and somewhat embrace its messiness. I was criticizing those like Schaefer who seem to think we can find certainty, consistency and ultimate truth in it. If there is such C,C&T, I'm "certainly" not gleaning any of it. And I'm highly skeptical of those who claim they are.

[jhall38]

@slave290 You said, "The only reason Christianity is so prevalent today is because the Romans adopted Christianity and spread it to the corners of the empire as THE favored religion." This is a reduction, an oversimplification. Christianity was always more than what the Roman Empire could absorb. Read Jacques Elul, the French historian who reads the legalization of Christianity under Constantine as a "bastardization" of it. The teachings of Jesus in people's hearts couldn't be bastardized.

[jhall38]

@kmarnycyt1 Do you think your particular philosophy has no context? How is it possible at all to be in possession of a philosophy without a particular context? While social constructivism may not be typical of average schools of philosophy, rest assured that whatever your perspective is, that is all it is. It is embodied (you are in a body) & embedded (in a cultural context). Why should you expect Biblical clarity & consistency in messy human contexts? Its messiness is its truth.

[thelyniezian]

Minor nitpick here: the Scots didn't actually exist (and their ancestors weren't in what is not Scotland) at the time of the Roman Empire- the people living there at the time were those commonly referred to as Picts.

Also, incidentally, Hadrian's Wall does not follow the border of modern-day Scotland- it actually runs mostly if not entirely through the north of England. (I know from experience: I live in the region and have been there on several occasions!)