Amy and Mr. President - You don't have to be here at all

Season 5
Constituency of One

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[kmrs1959]

I felt the character represented the absolute worst about American politics. She had a personal agenda, no matter how honorable or accepted by some, it was pushing not for what the people would have voted for but rather what a portion of a group wanted to "make" the rest of the populous adhere to.

[sunnchilde]

This is one of the great Bartlett b1tch slaps of the show. When I first saw it I was like "Oh, my god."

Amy needed to be taken down a peg or two.

[johnskudris]

"It stinks in here...It's like Moby Dick's gym locker."



[17R3W]

@kmrs1959

The thing that made the West Wing so good, was that everyone on the show, wanted to do "good". Even the republican's who were the "opponent" were largely seen as good people.

Her character (as well as the presidential challenger - Richie) were among the few exceptions to the rule.

[tfn105]

@17R3W Yeah. I do think that 5,6,7 get an unnecessarily bad rap. I think 7 in particular is right up there with the best work on the WW. But there was a definite, but subtle change in the mood and feel to the show once Sorkin left, which I suppose I would characterise as a loss of heart. All the characters were very endearing in the early days, and you cling to those older feelings in the latter seasons because they lose that a bit.

[17R3W]

@tfn105

Good point. Sorkin has a way of writing where he sets thing up well in advance, so when it happens it feels natural. And as you say, that gives the whole season a thread or theme.

S1 - a president tries to get his presidency off the ground

S2 - the MS

S3 - the assassination and getting ready for the election

S4 - the re-elect and fallout from the assassination

S6 - The peace deal and the primaries

S7 - The election and hand off from one administration to another

[tfn105]

@17R3W I don't think S5 was weak per se. Probably the weakest of all 7 seasons, but it had a lot of excellent moments. What it lacked was a thread throughout the season. It felt like a lot of individual episodes stitched together. But the 'holding pattern' was understandable given the changes in writers. Also, there seemed to be a greater intent to make characters fall out with each other, e.g. Toby and Will, Josh and Donna, Jed and Leo over time. Something the new writers did.

[Ares99999]

@NJLII No, just wondering why you're incapable of taking a hint. I get it. Now just answer one last time to satisfy your need to have the last word (I won't read that one anyway), and we'll be done.

[NJLII]

@Ares99999 With the show perhaps but with her hardly, I get an email for every response and it takes about 15 seconds to write so the grand total of 1 and a quarter minutes I've spent on the topic doesn't really amount to an obsession. But you're done with my nonsense remember? or have you forgotten?

[Ares99999]

@NJLII Why are you so obsessed with her, anyway?

[NJLII]

@Ares99999 And yet Hoynes, Santos even Bartlett kept calling back on her, but that's fine we watch these shows for enjoyment and if you enjoy it more with you're abstract interpretation of it than with the conventional one intended by the writers, more power to you.

[Ares99999]

@NJLII Yes, yes. Whatever can keep your fantasy going. Keep defending a bitch by saying a bitch is really not a bitch. I was done with your nonsense long ago. Ciao.