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Johann Hari vs Hizb Ut Tahrir - Part 4

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Ummah Talk on Islam Channel TV, presented by Hassan Chaudhry with Johann Hari (journalist, columnist for the Independent) and Sajjad Khan (editor of New Civilization magazine) - 1 February 2007

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  • Did he seriously just give Nazism and the Holocaust as an example of secular liberalism?

  • Sorry, non-muslims are always treated as second class citizens in islamic countries. That is a fact and pretending otherwise is a travesty and dishonest!

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  • @Vincentaneous either you're completely blind or completely moronic given the fact you bizarrely ignored what I wrote. Let's not "focus" on your superficial conclusions and instead address your own hypocrisies first before you start assessing who is or isn't a second class citizen in whomever's country/religion.

  • @Omer698 Yes, true, and early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise. Let's put aside old proverbs and focus on the point: It is true that non-Muslims are treated as second-class citizens in countries - to the extent that they are ruled by Islamic fundamentalists. Two wrongs don't make a right: America's faults do not excuse the barbarities of Islam.

  • @Vincentaneous my point is that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

  • @Omer698 Yes. What's your point? If I protest that Qatar treats certain people badly, it makes no difference that the United States treat people badly. The point still stands. If you murder someone, it makes no difference if I have also murdered someone - you're still a murderer. Also, it is more moral to mistreat illegal immigrants than to mistreat homosexuals because illegal immigrants have chosen to break the law, while being gay is biological and not chosen.

  • I can't believe this imbecile got away with it again. Johann gives him a direct quote from the website of their organisation, an unambiguously anti-Jewish statement, and his only response is to say that the Holocaust didn't happen in the Muslim world? He can't stand up for the written message of his own organisation, and can't disown it either. HOW PATHETIC

  • @sportygal1991 In what way did 'Western values' annihilate Jews in Europe? What are 'Western' values, for that matter? Enumerate them please.

  • @PunkCheerleaderBetch why shudn't they, its called 'culture'

  • no he said they are western values if u re-listen to it. It was western values which led to the anhilation of many jews....

  • no! he linked nazism and holocaust to western values be it outdated it was western values which anhilated jews in europe not islamic shariah!

  • Well the day islamic 'values' of Hizb Ut Tahrir are introduced into my country is the day I reach for my gun and grenades.

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