Jones-Lewis Baptism Debate-Part 7/7

This is the February 1982 unaired debate from The John Ankerberg Show on the topic: Is Salvation Dependent Upon Baptism? Water baptism and Holy Spirit baptism are discussed in light of there being only one baptism that people can obey. Debating are Jerry Jones and Gordon Lewis. Ankerberg refused to air this debate, claiming it would be bad for his TV ratings. Here it is.

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[USAFreedomReform]

1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[Full4God]

@USAFreedomReform Totally agree! And John defined who the "we" is. It is they who are walking in the light as He is in the light; not those who are walking in darkness, or even those who "claim" to have fellowship with God. It is very dangerous to take a single passage out of context in order to prove a point, whether you have good intentions or not. Please read 1 John 1:6-10 to see if it reads this way to you also. Thanks!

[USAFreedomReform]

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 John 5:7,8

[USAFreedomReform]

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 John 5:7,8

[USAFreedomReform]

@pretribrapture

Wonder if the Confession of the thief on the cross beside Jesus, could be considered a "DEATH BED CONFESSION"?

[Russkiy1976]

Churches of Christ in Russian Siberia greets you. Greetings to all of churches of Christ.

[Concatenate]

If I may make a comment about the thief on the cross. Even if he would've been baptized, it wouldn't have been into Jesus Christ. Romans 6 says we're baptized into Christ's death. The thief would've taken John's baptism which was for repentance and that which was to come. Only Jesus can save someone from sin, and He chose to forgive the thief on the cross as He forgives those of us who have faith in Him.

[Concatenate]

@pretribrapture I think we all have battles with ignorance, willful or accidental, I pray that the truth reveals itself to me in His word so that I may worship in spirit and in truth.

[Concatenate]

@pretribrapture So you're saying you can be saved with a bad conscience? That's what I get out of what you're saying since you believe one is saved before baptism. Also, I don't believe 1 Peter 3:21 is about saving someone from their conscience, I believe it is about appealing to God through baptism in order to have a good conscience that you've partaken of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (Romans 6:3-8).

[Full4God]

@pretribrapture This will be my last post to you, as you have consistently demonstrated eyes that choose to remain in the dark. And that is foolish, my friend. It is not enough to disagree, you must speak slanderously. You need a new heart before you will see the wise counsel of God, for it evades you.

"Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge." (Prov. 14:7)

"A fool does not delight in understanding, But only in revealing his own mind." (Prov. 18:2)