Miracle of Iron from Qur'an

Miracle of Iran from Qur'an and its striking similarity with modern-day findings. Video taken from user: PrinceAfghan, his account has been suspended now :(

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[juujuubie]

Surah 'Al Hadid' in the Quran or Chapter of 'The Iron'. By using the ancient Abjad calculation, we will get : Al = 31 and Hadid = 26. ( Al means 'The' and Hadid means 'Iron' ) Therefore 31+26 = 57. And this 57 is exactly the chapter of 'The iron' found in the Quran! A miracle? Maybe, but now think of the number 26 which belongs to Hadid (Iron) alone without the Al (The)........ 26! Now check the periodic table in your chemistry school book and see what number 26 belongs to.

[Dathinkingman]

@martyr84 yes it may be true and it may be false so from a neutral point of view the verse is inconclusive to establish the truth or falsehood of islam and thus it would be irrelevant. dont u agree? By the way i will like to hear your definition of vague vs specific. i think the definition that i have is the best there can be. dont multiple interpretations means being vague? if not why not? and how does quantum physics proves otherwise?

[martyr84]

@Dathinkingman You're clearly nitpicking and you're definition of vague is very insignificant. The evidence in the Quran are taken as a choice in either to make your faith stronger or for you to disbelieve.

This video is very misleading in its interpretation of the Iron being sent down.. However it may be true. Science and religion don't go hand in hand in our day of age. Quantum physics on the other hand, is beginning to prove otherwise.

[Dathinkingman]

@martyr84 moreover if quran is divine then its need not be limited to arabic rather since ISlam is for all of humanity Allah could have arranged matters in such a way that quran would not have lost its meaning and poetic Eloquence even when it was translated into any language of the world. for a human it would be impossible to do such a thing but god could have done it cos he is omnipotent so the fact that quran can only be understood best in arabic is actually evidence against its divinity !

[Dathinkingman]

@Dathinkingman the vagueness and mutiple interpretations of quran arise due to:

- changed contexts

- unknown/unclear translations of words now no longer used in arabic

- difference in supporting texts (e.g is Tabari authentic? to some yes others no) used to interprate

SIR dont accuse me of not DOING MY HOMEWORK. thats just an adhomiem (Insult) and not an argument. Argue to me how quran is not vague and refute my original objection regarding iron miracle. if u cant dont fool ur self.

[Dathinkingman]

@martyr84 my definition for vague is that if a verse can be interprated in a number of ways with various meanings then its vague. In case of quran many verses can be interprated in number of ways e.g if u just look to a tafsir even within that u will find multiple interpretations e.g ibn kasir will say one thing while some other will say something else and shia , ismaili scholars will end up saying a third things.

[martyr84]

@Dathinkingman Rest assured, if you think the Quran is vague, you're pretty much wasting your time because you aren't understanding it fully.

[Dathinkingman]

@Dathinkingman for example in the case of iron miracle the tafsir of my urdu quran pointed out that nazala should not be interpretated as literal comming down from sky rather it should be interprated metaphorical as the sacraficial animals were also nazala. so my objection regarding the correct interpretation of the "iron verse" actually comes after reading ur own Islamic scholars !!!!

[Dathinkingman]

@martyr84 no i dont know arabic just like u probably dont know sanskrit, hebrew and Pali (yet u reject chritianity, hinduism and buddhism respectively) nevertheless i consult various quranic translations e.g Yusuf Ali, khalifa, pickthall,shakir,sher ali and other misc urdu translations to understand the various meanings of words and i sometimes try to refer to contemporary exegesis (Tafsir) +Hadiths to get a better idea of how to inteprate the verse.

[martyr84]

@Dathinkingman Vague verses? Have you took the time in learning the Arabic language?