Extra Credits: No Redeeming Value

This week, we discuss the God of War trilogy's triumphs and failings in storytelling.

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[jweezee100]

i cant believe these are the top comments. first off mrejj04 what choice do u speak of. i didnt find this a choice at all. and Dean Antip0p seriously. Thats what the ending at 1 was essentially. so just proof that they didnt come up with any original storyline and essentially copied and pasted the first game across to 2 sequels to make money.

[Superfreak937]

@DeanAntip0p Didn't he make that realisation at the end of GOW 1? What was the point in the other two games if the resolution was exactly the same as in the original?

[ShadowSpore98]

@endplanets umm actually you do get a choice the developers have said multiple time =s you can leave the henchman to hench another day

[endplanets]

6:37

This is shockingly relevant stuff if you look at Ninja Gaiden 3. In one of the gameplay vids Ryu (main character) is faced with a soldier who is begging for his life. Ryu stands still and the player can only move him forward to the soldier who is walking backwards and begging. Then when pressed against the wall the player has to press X to kill him. No choice.

Ryu never had much character but this kinda first person moment ruins him, makes him a jackass and giving me no control.

[TheBowserone]

@BalmungSama0 Woah! keep in mind it is an action game..NOT A FEATURE FILM. and the world ISNT dead. the creators specifically said kratos is the reason why we dont believe in the greek gods anymore. at the end of the third game he CHOSE to sacrifice himself and give the knowledge of athena too the people much to her dismay...that dosnt sound heartless..my point its that kratos comes full circle much like any other tragic hero its not just violence violence VIOLENCE like some ppl wana believe

[BalmungSama0]

@TheBowserone Again, hard to represent hope when he pretty much cast horrors far greater than the Evils in Pandora's Box into the world. There's no sun, everything is flooded, plant life is all dead.

Plus, for a game about forgiveness, he sure does seek a LOT of revenge, and regret exactly NONE of it. Plus, ths Gods did just; he was abusing his powers, so they took them away.

When Power-hungry womanizer Zeus tells you you've gone too far, you've gone too far.

[TheBowserone]

Nah extra credz used alot of deep thought but it fails on this one , kratos over the course of 5 games (psp) goes thru change, but its not like the change a theif turned good guy typical nathan drake change, he represents hope, however he's not able to tap into that, because of his rage. in the 2nd and 3rd games kratos wife and child calliope FORGAVE HIM and in the third game and most important KRATOS FORGAVE HIMSELF. kratos a throws life and limb out to protect family as with demos his brother

[TheBowserone]

@BalmungSama0

The greek Gods themselves were evil in that game. kratos represents hope in its purest form. other than other game where you just shoot a bunch of people hell even games like uncharted. in the Gow games i felt that i had a goal a reason. and extra credz fails on the fact that the main story is forgivness. his wife and daughter forgave him. and in the third game HE FORGAVE HIMSELF.

[BalmungSama0]

No commentary on how Cratos pretty much destroys the world through his actions in the 3rd game, but we're still meant to think of his as a good guy because he gave the humans "hope"?

Hey, Cratos, you know what would've been better than Hope? You not flooding the world, blocking out the sun and killing all plant life on Earth. I don't see how us being optimistic makes up for that.

[AvaAvaneDawn]

I actually changed perspective in a short story as the main character died. The epilogue had changed perspective, as to accentuate the passing. I think it worked, gave it a sense of closure.

[DoctorCakey]

Not just children's shows. JRPGs, too.

[NotAGoodUsername360]

@Superfreak937 That war itself is inevitably evil and seeks destruction for destruction's sake, no matter what the intentions are of those who wage it.

Also, in the end, revenge is a vicious cycle that ends in utter misery and despair, and best avoided at all costs.