charles g. vernon talks about song and wind

Mr. Vernon talks about Arnold Jacob´s Philosophy "Song and Wind", in a masterclass in the Conservatorium van Amsterdam

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[TheVrajr]

Nonsense. Volume of air = volume of sound. Speed of air = pitch of sound. Mr. Vernon can make any sound he likes but still not be correct in his explanation.

[hecstork]

The volume of air is measured in liters. I can use 5 liters in one second for a very low soft note, and 5 liters during 10 seconds on the hight register with a pretty big sound, so that means that volume of air is not the same as volume of sound, it also depends on the register.

Speed=distance/time. If you measure the speed of air on a certain note in different dinamics, you will realize that the louder the dinamic is, the faster the air is. I think you should check your information provider

[hecstork]

Have you read Song and Wind?

[TheVrajr]

He's wrong. Faster is not bigger, faster is higher. More air makes more sound.

[hecstork]

fater is not higher, more pressure and less volume is higther, according to the experiments realized by A. Jacobs and other members of the CSO. But if you know how to achieve a bigger sound than C.G. Vernon, please, let us know.

[andres00004]

Why do people go through such a hassle just to prove Charles wrong

you may not have the same views.But he's the one who plays bass trombone in the Chicago Philharmonic and he a world-renowned trombone player

who the fuck are you?

[atheios12345]

When does he say speed of air equals pitch? Because I've listened to this multiple times and I'm pretty sure he says speed of air equals volume? Which seems like common knowledge (or should be). Everything he is saying is very similar to Don Harwoods school of thought on playing. Any complaint is just hogwash.

[AGittleman]

@Thevrajr I think we all know who the one dislike is!

[KnottPatriot]

@TheVrajr Faster is Not Higher

[TheElliotGreen]

@andres00004 Chicago Symphony. But I agree with you. "He's wrong."....hmm. I'll take they guy who's the Bass Trombonist in the CSO's advise over yours. Just sayin'.

[danielsanchezmarcos]

@andres00004 chicago symphony, if you don´t mind.

[TromboneMasterMan]

@TheVrajr Also, by saying charlie is wrong about this, you're also saying Arnold Jacobs is wrong. Think about that, Two of the best low brass players of ALL time. And you're probably some guy that barely practices and no one knows your name, but you're going to criticize the masters of brass' teaching.

[AttitudeCastle]

At 4:40 that laugh hahahahahahaha :)

Mr Vernon is a genious indeed!

[tjandamber]

The Vrajr...you need to check yourself. More pressure is to kill your chops in any range. Sound can be determined by air also pressure (bad) ,and tightness. Tightness refers to focus..before you attack some one else remember this....embouchure is not black and white what works for you and yours may not work for everyone. Be cool.

[mattdoubleday]

@andres00004 Exactly!

[LLJtbone]

@LLJtbone : That's VERNON.