God, Where Are All the Miracles?

The consistent decrease in miracles over time as we have gained knowledge and understanding of the universe and how it works, raises important questions if you believe in god, especially if you believe your god will kill non-believers. We are left with 3 options, one option being the only logical conclusion.

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[matthewjumps]

@2paclove2 no, from your quran

i could sit here and read you verse after verse that clearly state women are inferior, having slaves is acceptable, homosexuals and non-believers are hated by allah, and a whole range of other backwards bullshit

but the truth is, your 'god-goggles' are so firmly in place you are ready to defend and make excuses (lame rubbish like 'it was an ancient time' or 'its out of context') for all of them, without paying attention to how immoral they are. learn some morals.

[2paclove2]

@matthewjumps Where did you get these info on the Koran,a site for atheists?

[matthewjumps]

you tell me to learn my facts right, but i have read verse after verse in the quran that condones slavery, condones sexism and violence towards woman, and encourages intolerance and hatred for homosexuals and non-believers.

you are probably a moderate muslim, like moderate christians, who pick the 'nice' parts from the bible/quran and ignore all the immoral parts, but because you are doing so, dont waste my time with your claims of morality.

i wont be wasting my time with this conversation

[matthewjumps]

@2paclove2 the quran recognises slavery, and concubinage of slaves. while there are provisions for freedom (as in the bible), the issue here is that slavery is immoral, and yet both the bible and quran not only condone slavery but give instructions on how to enact this immoral practice.

as for woman, the quran repeatedly indicates women are worth less than, and are more unclean than men. women are to be submissive and subservient to men, and men can take sex slaves.

of course you will deny it.

[2paclove2]

@matthewjumps I know good christians which are forgiving,and the muslim book says slaves are ok?Our prophet used to buy slaves and then set them free,islam sees every one as human,all colours races are invited,and sexism?did you know the prophets last words on bed were treat the women good and with respect,intolerence did you hear this verse you have your religion,i have mine and we muslims are allowed to marry women of the books,witch are jews,christians,learn your facts right.

[matthewjumps]

@2paclove2 wow, you didnt read the bible yet you "know" its a "good" religion.

i give up, youre a deluded nut. you somehow think you can "know" all these things without even studying them properly. islam and christianity are both incredibly immoral, both contain passages in their holy books that justify slavery, sexism, violence and intolerance, and you are morally corrupt if you are ok with that.

go babble your nonsense elsewhere, your stupidity is no longer welcome here.

[2paclove2]

@matthewjumps I am not christian,i am a Muslim,i did not read the bible but i know its a good religion but it was changed by the church after Islam came to remain in power,and i dont believe in blowing up towers and killing anyone,GOd judges not me.

[matthewjumps]

@2paclove2 no, by my logic we should find our morals using reason, logic and empathy, and not some outdated, sexist, racist book written thousands of years ago by ignorant bronze age idiots.

morals dont come from the bible. your bible says slavery is moral, as well as genocide and rape. if you dont believe me, look up 'slavery in the bible' and read about how the bible justifies beating a slave to death as long as he dies after suffering 2 days. of course you will make excuses, i used to too.

[2paclove2]

@matthewjumps Animals kill and eat other animals,so by your logic we should kill each other and eat each other as well,if God was invented why did the 3 religions did not say that we should serve one person,help the poor,love every body and so on?,while an athiest can believe in what he thinks is alright.

[matthewjumps]

@2paclove2 ok, thats what you believe, but all im saying is if god hates homosexuality so much why did he program it into so many animals instincts?

as for our grandchildren, youre commiting a slippery slope fallacy. its a common religious mistake. its quite a silly argument. according to your logic eventually we will all be necrophiliac murderous cannibals and calling it normal, but despite your worst fears, i dont think we need a magical god myth to stop that from happening.