William Lane Craig vs Theodore Drange (HQ) 10/11

A debate at the University of Illinois between Professors William Lane Craig and Theodore Drange on the question of God's existence

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[happysappy21]

it's funny how Drange mumbles and stumbles his way through his 5 minutes and is so relieved when it's over. WLC on the other has to hurry to get all the refutations covered in time. Drange has so little to defend his argument

[AgeOfReasonXXI]

Mr Lame Contradiction contradicts himself again: he denied that if God reduced suffering more people would believe in God. /btw, if that's true shouldn't we stop treating people suffering due to diseases or natural disasters, since it's goignt to bring them closer to Yahweh? shouldn't all start living like the Ethiopians?/

Yet he has stated on numerous other occasions that evil/suffering (the so called Problem of Evil) is the main reason why it's hard for people to believe in God

[6thwing]

@hisdoodnes Wow. You are really ignorant of his arguments. Just watch the first video in this series. Or even THIS video. Not only is Fine-Tuning NOT his only point, but it is also plausible.

[6thwing]

@wachnathan Yes, yes he has. Did you watch all the videos? Lol. If so then show which one of his premises that you reject, and show why they are false. Use logic. Because right now, you are relying solely on your rejection of truth, not any refutation of false.

[lifeandphilosophy]

Interesting though how the changes of science would make this debate different. Now there are plausible multiverse theories like the chaotic inflationary models. A TOE is looking more plausible(though I agree it won't solve the fine-tuning anyhow). I think Craig needed to press further the difference between belief in God, and the relevant kind of belief for salvation(dedicating ur life to God). The latter is a matter of free will despite what Drange tells you.

[wachnathan]

He is asserting nothing more it least be honest about that.

[Pucker7]

@wachnathan he is delivering, you just wont accept what he is delivering. I'm not saying your ignorant i'm just saying that you are not convinced with what he says. Now you can say no there isn't a god and become an atheist, but what is there to suggest that this is true? Or you can become an agnostic in where you aren't denying nor believing the god theory.

[wachnathan]

Who cares what you think Craig your the one with the burden and you haven't delivered so i am not buying.

[HonestTechnoAtheist]

If he wants everyone to be saved then he needs to provide the evidence which he knows that people want or else they won't believe in him.

[MoonwalkerWorshiper]

@pobanmanu I thought so too but listen at 4:55, he hasn't any time left to refute all those stupid questions. He's not the source of moral values and can't decide what is right and wrong, which is knowing God immediately, and this was the closing comments not continued argumenting.