Ron Paul is a Voluntarist
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@gradiu3rox Your strategy for achieving freedom is to shoot tax collectors... and yet you don't have a gun, because the government says you can't have gun. I can see a problem with your strategy. But yeah, let me know how it goes.
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@craigslistflow No such thing as a Statist Voluntaryist ("Constitutional Voluntaryist").
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If I do not pay taxes I go to jail. If I don't give the mugger my money I get shot.. its theft. To take my money first, disperse it, and give me what they think they owe me back...
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Good sound bites ..... however ....
your gawd/idol RP signed the GOP Persoonhood Pledge:
AND he authored a bill that would provide for the ESTABLISHMENT of a STATE RELIGION!!!
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Sorry, I just remembered something. I mean its been some time for me so forgive me not being maximally sharp. Classical Libertarianism is I believe what is called in american and in "New World". I just remembered that I believe it is not called that in europe, so in the USA and many latin america. People versed in philosophy and economics might regonize when I use that term. Sorry, Its been a bit of time for me still as I tend to focus more on philosophical principals, not terms
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Still I am going to do more research but from the bit I have done today I am leaning towards that. If I can find anything really solid on classical libertarianism I will put it up or send it to you. I was even thinking of putting up work and info on it myself because many people don't know about it and it is history is very important not just as it influecned directly American creation it influenced so many countries and took away the out right powers of monarchy in a nutshell.
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we seem to be talking about the same thing anyway lol, just two different names for the same apple as I think I have seen some of the same historical names for classical libertarianism as Voluntarism and in my study of it as a course. I think the difference is Classical Libertarianism is more developed, socio-economic-polictical movement that stems from voluntaryism or voluntarism. Liberals being the more supporters of gov intervention as nessary and classic libterians saying no
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When I heard about this term and as I became more famillar with it, there seems to be no difference between classical libertarianism and voluntarism or voluntaryism. liberalism and libertarianism differ but the classical verison is a more specific idea mold and is not changable for the times as people often do with the word liberal and libertarian. Classical Libertarianism is taught as a subject in coll/uni and has a big western back history.
I would like to know what is the difference between a Classical libertarianism and voluntarism. Also Which came first as a term?
Ryukikon 2 weeks ago
@Ryukikon For your first question, watch the youtube video "Ron Paul and the six kinds of libertarian". For your second question, I'd check wikipedia.
grahampwright 2 weeks ago
I did check wiki and a few articles and videos about voluntarism before asking the question. I will watch the video(surety) however from you are saying to me conceptually their is little to no difference between a classical libertarian and a voluntarist. THis was my initial suspicion I will still read more and hold off on a final judgment that the use of these terms is conceptually interchangeable as they equal the same thing
Ryukikon 2 weeks ago
@Ryukikon I am not familiar with the term classical libertarian. I know classical liberal, and I know libertarian. Libertarian and voluntarist mean pretty much the same thing (although some would use libertarianism in a more 'big tent' sense). Classical liberals generally supported small states. This distinguishes them from voluntarists. Libertarians had Austrian Economics available to them, and they applied it to law/security, whereas the classical liberals assumed the state is necessary.
grahampwright 2 weeks ago