Ron Paul is a Voluntarist

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Ron Paul has re-ignited the spark for liberty in the United States and around the world. He has generated unprecedented interest in libertarian philosophy and sound Austrian economics.

The modern libertarian movement, founded by Murray Rothbard, opposes the initiation of force by anyone. In this way, modern libertarians go further than the classical liberals, who accepted the initiation of force by the State, believing taxation to be necessary for security.

This position is known by various names including voluntar[y]ism, self-government, anarcho-capitalism, market anarchism, and libertarian anarchism.

In this video, using Ron Paul's own words from his books and interviews, it is shown that Ron Paul's goal is voluntarism. He adopts limited-government positions and appeals to the U.S. Constitution as part of a long-term strategy for achieving a completely free society, absent any State.

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http://www.VforVoluntary.com
http://www.Mises.org
http://www.ManAgainstTheState.blogspo...

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Listed at http://vforvoluntary.com/ron-paul/

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[Ryukikon]

I would like to know what is the difference between a Classical libertarianism and voluntarism. Also Which came first as a term?

[grahampwright]

For your first question, watch the youtube video "Ron Paul and the six kinds of libertarian". For your second question, I'd check wikipedia.

[Ryukikon]

I did check wiki and a few articles and videos about voluntarism before asking the question. I will watch the video(surety) however from you are saying to me conceptually their is little to no difference between a classical libertarian and a voluntarist. THis was my initial suspicion I will still read more and hold off on a final judgment that the use of these terms is conceptually interchangeable as they equal the same thing

[grahampwright]

I am not familiar with the term classical libertarian. I know classical liberal, and I know libertarian. Libertarian and voluntarist mean pretty much the same thing (although some would use libertarianism in a more 'big tent' sense). Classical liberals generally supported small states. This distinguishes them from voluntarists. Libertarians had Austrian Economics available to them, and they applied it to law/security, whereas the classical liberals assumed the state is necessary.

[an0nymousYT]

Part 1 of 2:

Ron Paul recently stated very specifically that he is *not* a voluntaryist (more specifically anarcho-capitalist) and that he is instead *in favor of* minimalist government.

Title: Dr. Ron Paul - Lobbies For Liberty at Oberlin College, Oberlin Ohio 4-7-2013

Time: 1:02:33

YouTube ID: v=W5K_IZTSwHU#t=3753s

[an0nymousYT]

Part 2:

Ron Paul: "..He asked about anarcho-capitalism. I haven't gotten to that point yet. I would think that maybe that is an ultimate goal, but not for a long time to come. We have a bigger job just stopping the slide into tyranny, let alone saying that we can accept the notion that no government should exist. So I don't accept that. But I certainly accept the minimalist approach to government with the sole purpose of protecting liberty, ... contract. .... But I am not an anarcho-capitalist."

[flossyfroyo]

I love Ron Paul. I think it's funny how your trying to make him look bad by saying everything I agree with.

[Austen Samyn]

Voluntaryist*

[Ryukikon]

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-I am still reading and researching to see the major difference however so far I have not found that. I understand why the founding fathers and many Classical Liberals went the way they did. It seems to be not really be minarchist, it seems very anarchistic to me. Especially when I go back and read some of their writing and works. Still, I maybe too immature in my understand and do believe that is possible so I will continue researching. Thanks for the responses they are really helpful.

[Ryukikon]

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Thanks for the response and I have been learning more, and I was confusing the terms with liberal and libertarian, its funny now however Ron Paul and other I have heard, use them interchangeably. The founding fathers are libertarian, etc.

-I still can't see how a Libertarian is not a voluntarist, could you please explain that. I think they are difference in the degrees which it is taken. Its like Christian secs, Some believe he is good and others a prophet only difference is level of belief

[dime1046]

Classical Liberalism came first. Classical libertarians are more along the lines of the American libertarian movement. Voluntaryists are something different. They are anarchists. Libertarians are minarchists.

[TravistheHuman]

The last pieces of the libertarian puzzle.

[Anime0rManga]

Can you elaborate a little more on that thought?

[PeaceRequiresAnarchy]

"voluntaryism which does NOT allow socialist enclaves"

Yes it does. Voluntaryism / voluntarism / libertarianism / anarcho-capitalism / free market anarchism are all compatible with the idea of peacefully coexisting with others who wish to live in a "socialist enclave." This is because you can setup a "socialist enclave" without violating committing aggression, i.e. without violating peoples' private property rights.