WTC Impacts - WTC2 Stabilised

WTC Impacts - WTC2 Stabilised

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[OverlordRulerOfAll]

@femr2 yes. either that or maybe just GET to the point and rationale of why they think it wouldn't - without the riddley, disingenuous and arcane "performance" of a carnival shyster.

[femr2]

@OverlordRulerOfAll There are a lot of folk that don't realise how thin the column walls arctually were. It's always useful to make comments as productive as possible. I would hope that any architect presented with such information really has no excuse to continue to think that the aircraft would not penetrate the facade.

[OverlordRulerOfAll]

@femr2 ...."What, EXACTLY, is your point?" should have been your first question to this high-steppin' Riddler, not your last.

[femr2]

@gsamborska I think Achimspoks is probably the most accurate, but I just stated a ballpark figure as an example.

It's simply foolish to suggest that such a high KE impact would not be able to penetrate through quarter inch steel.

There was likely some compaction, but nothing but penetration could ensue.

If none of what I'm saying changes your opinion on whether the aircraft would penetrate the facade, what exactly is it that you are suggesting as an alternative ?

[gsamborska]

@femr2 go to pilotsfor911truth for probable speed of the planes;

also keep in mind that planes are built out of aluminum and fiberglass;

don't forget that few concrete floor structures "were" also cut

[femr2]

@gsamborska Then perform your own analysis. I'm in no doubt about the effect of several hundred thousand kilos of mass travelling around 500MPH, and it's associated KE impacting a few box columns whose walls are about 0.25 inches thick.

It's going to cut through, no problem.

You can cut through 0.25inch steel with water.

You can cut through 0.25inch steel with air.

Hand-waving doesn't *cut it*.

Pun intended :)

[gsamborska]

@femr2 T. Wierzbicki's simulation brings more questions than answers. It was discussed on 911blogger in 2007.

[femr2]

@gsamborska Oops. Up to 3 inches at base :) But still ~0.25inches at that elevation.

[femr2]

@gsamborska About 0.25 inch. A36 Steel (13mm at base, 6mm at roof) Why do you not already know, if you are stating *impossibilities*. Start with T. Wierzbicki web. mit. edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapte­r%20IV%20Aircraft%20Impact. pdf - Your mention of Newton doesn't make it sound like you are an architect to be honest. That's the kind of thing thrown in the pot by the uninformed.

[gsamborska]

@femr2 How thin were the perimeter tube columns? "Surprisingly" is not a technical data. What about the concrete floors? What impact studies do you refer to? NIST? The Popular Mechanics? Third Newton's Law: The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear. This means that whenever a first body exerts a force F on a second body, the second body exerts a force −F on the first body.

Google Newton's laws of motion.