John Piper - Irresistible grace
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There are people with the same resistance and similar situations, but their resistance is not broken. GOD therefore shows no partiality when it comes to salvation. Grace after one's salvation is irresistible after forgiveness of sins through Jesus, but holiness until glorification is not 1 Cor. 3:13-16.
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@patrckhh20 uhm no. John Piper himself declares, "when Children are born into this world, they're DEAD. Women give birth to DEAD babies." Yes, read Rom.9. & read it in the same way All Calvinists do-- ALL men are FATED for Either Heaven or Hell "BEFORE having done ANYTHING either good or Bad in order that Gods PURPOSE OF ELECTION might continue", not by "human will or exertion", to make known the riches of His glory for vessels of mercy, His ELECT.
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Did Lazarus choose to raise himself from the dead? The Lord chose me and began his work of grace in me long before I had any understanding of what was happening. That is a fact and I am eternally grateful.
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Consistent Calvinism, unfortunately teaches that people end up in HELL because of Gods SOVEREIGN WILL, due to Adams SIN, instead of their own personal sins-- for God purposely manufactures dead babies in the womb, programmed to sin & only sin lacking ALL ability to repent or beg for mercy, the VAST MAJORITY PREDESTINED for DAMNATION "BEFORE having done anything either good or bad" Rom.9:11 -- Yet some of you believe in Equal Ultimacy because He SOVEREIGNLY decreed it for "His good pleasure"
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I love the fact that God chose me before I chose Him and that He loved me eternity before I loved Him, despite all my failures and continuous, horrible sinning against Him.
Glory be to His name forever and ever! :)
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Piper could have just argued his point from this text alone SOLA SCRIPTURIA!
Isa 55:10 "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
Isa 55:11 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.
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@NB3K Pro 16:4 The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.
Soli Deo Gloria!
derekjvb 2 years ago 20
About time we had some real preachers on here dealing with the real TRUTH and unconditional election rather than conditional....the fuller understanding of what being saved by GRACE really means. No room for any boasting at all when it comes to our salvation and security. Piper is a fine saint and deliverer of the Word.....
ashirly 2 years ago 19