Vercingetorix-Alesia

the battle of Alesia from the Gaulish attack

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[celticbattleaxe]

@etistone ...to their advantage. They should have encircles Caesar's ramparts to keep them in one place, and thereby cutting off him to supplies and contact to other legions near the Alps. The Gauls lost because they attacked Caesar using too many troops in one place, plus, they had no siege equipment (catapults) to destroy the ramparts.

[celticbattleaxe]

@etistone Agreed - historians are just now beginning to realize that the Roman documents about the Celts have been biased, and much of the info is probably false. Caesars 'Gallic Wars', for example, have false statements that he probably used to convince the Senate to continue hos conquest in Gaul, and then extend into Albion. Alesia was won only by tactical superiority, if you ask me. The Gauls sent two relief forces, both of great size, but they did not know how to use their numbers

[etistone]

@celticbattleaxe Well, I'm not sure, I didn't see this movie. But it's not nown for it's quality nor it's historical accuracy, quite the opposite actualy. As for the battle of Alesia, it lasted several days with several attempts and differents tactics from the gaul relief force (gauls from all the country).

[celticbattleaxe]

@etistone Wait a second - is this the attack at the ramparts by the Gaul relief force? And if so, which relief force?

[celticbattleaxe]

@etistone Indeed! :) He had the Remi and Lingones and the only mercenaries, I believe.

[etistone]

@celticbattleaxe By contrast, at Alesia, the last day of battle the Gauls thrown 50000 of their best warriors in the battle to try to break trew a weak point. After a fierce fight they had to retreat, and nobody was here to cover them. They were slaugtered.

[etistone]

@celticbattleaxe

The battle of gergovia was lost by a mistransmission of a retreat order from Caesar. The legions kept pushing forward and sustained heavy losses before withdrawing. Then Ceasar covered them with some reserve troops and moved on. He was not invincible indeed but as a great generals, he had a B plan that made Gergovia a bitter rather than a catastrophic defeat allowing him to continue the war. And he had Gauls mercenaries as well, you're right.

[celticbattleaxe]

@etistone They may have had German mercenaries - I don't have enough info to confirm that.

[celticbattleaxe]

@etistone You mean the same 'professionals' who lost at Gergovia? Gaius Julius Caesar was not invincible. The only mercenaries Caesar would've had were the Remi and Lingones, both Gaulish tribes who did not unite under Vercingetorix.

Caesar won at Alesia because the Gallic reinforcements failed to use their numbers to their advantage, and what Caesar accomplished was tactical brilliancy. Still, he made the big mistake of being power-hungry, which ended up costing him his life as emperor.

[religiofob]

@etistone

Romans:

According to Jean Markale or Gerard Walter (I'm not sure) - 30 000,

English Wiki - 80 000,

Polish Wiki - 50 000.

Not important. Anyway, the Gauls had a big dominance. I don't want to offend anyone - Vercingetorix is the great French hero (although he was Celt not French).

PS. I maintain the conquest of Dacia is more interesting and forgotten. Baselessly...

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