عدم ارتباط حسنه حضرت علی (ع) با ابابکر و عمر در صحیح بخاری علی (ع) عمر را خائن و دروغگو می خواند . این مطلب برگرفته از کتاب صحیح بخاری می باشد و روایت در این کتب آورده شده است .
How can we be their enemies when they are our masters, our Imams? We take our religion from them. By Allah, we are their true followers. You people did Ghulu and turned them into Gods. (Astaghferullah).
Don't you know that Imam Abu Hanifa (ra) was tortured to death. Imam Malik (ra) was tortured. Imam Ibn Hanbal (ra) was tortured because they defended the religion. Don't you know these?
@AbuMuslimKhorasani There is nothing in Shia books that Imam Mahdi(a.s) is hiding from people because of fear. That is totally nonsense and you know you are talking trash here.
And be aware Wahhabis and Sunnis are clear enemies of Imams. All Imams were martyred by Sunni Khulafa. Your children even don't know their names. If it wasn't for Shias, they've been forgotten from the history. Your Islam is nothing but Umayyad Islam.
btw, being Rafidi is better than being TERRORIST. Al-Qaeeda chief.
They are not created by 'filthy Wahabis' but by rafizi scholars themselves. They have turned Ali (ra) into a coward, and all Imams into cowards who feared people.
Now according big Shia scholars like Tusi and Murtaza, 12th Imam is hiding due to fear of Zalimeen.
We Sunnis are the real followers of Ahlulbayt (ra).
Let me make it clear for you. First, Ali (ra) didn't utter those words to Umar (ra). Secondly, Abbas (ra) is calling Ali (ra) a sinful, liar etc. Umar (ra) then used the words of Abbas (ra) to make a point.
If you want we can discuss this Hadith in pm because I can't post all Hadith here.? It is hard to clean.
Note: This hadith is also mentioned in Bukhari but without the words 'sinful treacherous, liar etc.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani that is an absolute nonsense[ what you said about Imam Mahdi] and there is nothing is shia books about that. That is what filthy Wahhabis have created because of their hater toward Shias.
I think I found where is your problem. First of all, its not in the second part of the hadith its in the first part. the story is this: Uthman, Abd al-Rabman b. 'Auf, Zubair and Sa'd came to Umer (one side) and then Ali(a.s) and Abbas. Abbas then says to Umer decide a dispute between me (me and Ali) and this sinful, treacherous, dishonest liar which refers to Uthman and Sa'd. There were many people there too and they encouraged Umer to do so...
@AbuMuslimKhorasani continue: Umer continues: When Abu Bakr passed away and become the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr, you thought me to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani you are either a liar and sinful like AbuBaker and Umer or you are a moron. There is nothing is that Hadith that Abbas calls Ali (a.s) what you mentioned. Here it is:
Umer says: ." So both of you[Abbas and Ali] thought him [Abu Baker] to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest. And Allah knows that he was true, virtuous, well-guided and a follower of truth.
Anyways, let me tell you what I found. In the second part of that long hadith, Ali (ra) is also called a liar, sinful, treacherous etc by ibn Abbass (ra). So if you want to accept the first part then do the same with the second part.
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PesareShojaa1001 5 days ago
@supernova1387
How can we be their enemies when they are our masters, our Imams? We take our religion from them. By Allah, we are their true followers. You people did Ghulu and turned them into Gods. (Astaghferullah).
Don't you know that Imam Abu Hanifa (ra) was tortured to death. Imam Malik (ra) was tortured. Imam Ibn Hanbal (ra) was tortured because they defended the religion. Don't you know these?
Your imaginary Imam is hiding due to fear.
1. طوسی صفحه 289-290
2. المقنع فی الغیبه ص52.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 2 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani There is nothing in Shia books that Imam Mahdi(a.s) is hiding from people because of fear. That is totally nonsense and you know you are talking trash here.
And be aware Wahhabis and Sunnis are clear enemies of Imams. All Imams were martyred by Sunni Khulafa. Your children even don't know their names. If it wasn't for Shias, they've been forgotten from the history. Your Islam is nothing but Umayyad Islam.
btw, being Rafidi is better than being TERRORIST. Al-Qaeeda chief.
supernova1387 2 months ago
@supernova1387
They are not created by 'filthy Wahabis' but by rafizi scholars themselves. They have turned Ali (ra) into a coward, and all Imams into cowards who feared people.
Now according big Shia scholars like Tusi and Murtaza, 12th Imam is hiding due to fear of Zalimeen.
We Sunnis are the real followers of Ahlulbayt (ra).
AbuMuslimKhorasani 2 months ago
@supernova1387
Let me make it clear for you. First, Ali (ra) didn't utter those words to Umar (ra). Secondly, Abbas (ra) is calling Ali (ra) a sinful, liar etc. Umar (ra) then used the words of Abbas (ra) to make a point.
If you want we can discuss this Hadith in pm because I can't post all Hadith here.? It is hard to clean.
Note: This hadith is also mentioned in Bukhari but without the words 'sinful treacherous, liar etc.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 2 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani that is an absolute nonsense[ what you said about Imam Mahdi] and there is nothing is shia books about that. That is what filthy Wahhabis have created because of their hater toward Shias.
supernova1387 2 months ago
I think I found where is your problem. First of all, its not in the second part of the hadith its in the first part. the story is this: Uthman, Abd al-Rabman b. 'Auf, Zubair and Sa'd came to Umer (one side) and then Ali(a.s) and Abbas. Abbas then says to Umer decide a dispute between me (me and Ali) and this sinful, treacherous, dishonest liar which refers to Uthman and Sa'd. There were many people there too and they encouraged Umer to do so...
supernova1387 2 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani continue: Umer continues: When Abu Bakr passed away and become the successor of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr, you thought me to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest.
supernova1387 2 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani you are either a liar and sinful like AbuBaker and Umer or you are a moron. There is nothing is that Hadith that Abbas calls Ali (a.s) what you mentioned. Here it is:
Umer says: ." So both of you[Abbas and Ali] thought him [Abu Baker] to be a liar, sinful, treacherous and dishonest. And Allah knows that he was true, virtuous, well-guided and a follower of truth.
supernova1387 2 months ago
@supernova1387
OK, I don't believe that you have read.
Anyways, let me tell you what I found. In the second part of that long hadith, Ali (ra) is also called a liar, sinful, treacherous etc by ibn Abbass (ra). So if you want to accept the first part then do the same with the second part.
بخدا قسم که ما اهل سنت پیروان حقیقی اهل بیت هستیم
AbuMuslimKhorasani 2 months ago