THE SHROUD OF TURIN !! THE TRUE BURIAL CLOTH OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST !! 1

IX. But concerning the Eucharist, after this fashion give ye thanks. First, concerning the cup. We thank thee, our Father, for the holy vine, David thy Son, which thou hast made known unto us through Jesus Christ thy Son; to thee be the glory for ever. And concerning the broken bread. We thank thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which thou hast made known unto us through Jesus thy Son; to thee be the glory for ever. As this broken bread was once scattered on the mountains, and after it had been brought together became one, so may thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth unto thy kingdom; for thine is the glory, and the power, through Jesus Christ, for ever. And let none eat or drink of your Eucharist but such as have been baptized into the name of the Lord, for of a truth the Lord hath

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said concerning this, Give not that which is holy unto dogs. 1

X. But after it has been completed, so pray ye. We thank thee, holy Father, for thy holy name, which thou hast caused to dwell in our hearts, and for the knowledge and faith and immortality which thou hast made known unto us through Jesus thy Son; to thee be the glory for ever. Thou, Almighty Master, didst create all things for the sake of thy name, and hast given both meat and drink for men to enjoy, that we might give thanks unto thee, but to us thou hast given spiritual meat and drink, and life everlasting, through thy Son. Above all, we thank thee that thou art able to save; to thee be the glory for ever. Remember, Lord, thy Church, to redeem it from every evil, and to perfect it in thy love, and gather it together from the four winds, even that which has been sanctified for thy kingdom which thou hast prepared for it; for thine is the kingdom and the glory for ever. Let grace come, and let this world pass away. Hosanna to the Son of David. 2 If any one is holy, let him come (to the Eucharist); if any one is not, let him repent. Maranatha. Amen. But charge the prophets to give thanks, so far as they are willing to do so.

XI. Whosoever, therefore, shall come and teach you all these things aforesaid, him do ye receive; but if the teacher himself turn and teach another doctrine with a view to subvert you, hearken not to him; but if he come to add to your righteousness, and the knowledge of the Lord, receive him as the Lord. But concerning the apostles and prophets, thus do ye according to the

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[GoodShepard007]

The image on the shroud is MYRRH. This is a liquid resin that comes from a tree. When it dries it becomes hard, glossy, light reflective and sensitive.

Nicodemus brought 100 lbs of myrrh and aloes to Jesus by night. In doing this the burial cloth became saturated with this and became a virtual photographic film plate. Aloes contain cellulose and when exposed to light forms a latent invisible image. That is exactly what we have on the Shroud. A drawing with light, a photograph.

[NilDesperandum777]

@NilDesperandum777 * "...burial cloth of Christ..."

[NilDesperandum777]

@xxXXRitchieXXxx That G-d exists is a different focus altogether. That this is the burial cloth of Christ another focus still. The conversation should be about the exceptional, exclusive properties within The Shroud and those pieces of evidence that establish it as something exceptional and exclusive in history. Once that's understood, the question arises if not Christ, then who? And if this is the burial Christ, then the rest of his contentions in the Gospel become very very important for all.

[xxXXRitchieXXxx]

@NilDesperandum777 Dont really matter that still dont prove god exists its just a man whos name possibly could be jesus or tom who could have lived long ago. That dont mean he was the son of an all powerful being or force so just throwing that out there.

[NilDesperandum777]

@jerico641 More testing, I think at this point will simply add to the "mystery" in terms of mechanics, but all of it, still under an umbrella that asks, how does technology not yet invented find it's way into a 2000 year old relic with every hallmark of the recorded, historical account of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ? The C-14 test that mainstream media continues to refer to is the 1989 test, long since disproved. As for deceit, I think there's heavy implications involved...

[jerico641]

@NilDesperandum777

Well, I think one thing we might agree upon is that more testing does need to be done, if for no other reason than scientific curiosity (or in my case, proof of what the thing actually is). Btw, I thought that test took place in 1978. Lastly, I wonder why anyone would purposely perform a deceptive test?

[NilDesperandum777]

@jerico641 Not the case at all. Enough pieces of evidence eventually point to an irrefutable conclusion. You should really investigate -honestly -the findings, including, Ray Rogers who published in Thermochemica Acta the findings that the '89 test pieces were in fact, pieces or repaired cloth. Of note, Rogers was on the initial team that tested said pieces. The initial 1989 test is actually under suspicion as having been purposefully deceptive. Interesting to say the least.

[jerico641]

@NilDesperandum777

Well, since there's no "test for christness" I guess we're never going to agree on the central issue; I for one will never accept anything other than valid scientific proof for any claim that outlandish. and also, the way I remember it, that piece of cloth was never verified as coming from a repaired area; the scientists would have noticed that, in my view. Lastly, I'd have to have extensive proof of blood matches and dating techniques before I'd buy the facecloth thing.

[NilDesperandum777]

@Raezene Good to hear! The C- 14 testing is long since been proven erroneous, there's no real acadmeic dispute to speak of. The Shroud is also, likely the most test artifact from antiquity so there is certainly a lot of information already gathered. Unlike other artifacts, The Shroud is entirely mystifying given the information present. As one person noted, there is no test for "Christness" but in consideration of all the known evidence, it begs the question, if not Jesus Christ, then who is it?

[Raezene]

@NilDesperandum777 At least that is a bit more to go on. I'm not so trusting of religious icons of this nature due the fact that so many turn out to be poorly understood effects, or pure fakes. What I have read of the shroud in the past showed that it failed the carbon dating test (I know this is in dispute), and other results (like what you mentioned) are based on understandably limited samples. I'm not a unreasonable skeptic, but I do believe more testing is in order. I'll read more on it.