Paul Warden and Cat Wiles West Coast Swing Windsor Workshop
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@Aner2557 , sorry. Can't agree. Although I do like Jason's dancing a lot, I think he lack fluidity. He always looks like this bigadorable cute sexy boy when he dances... which is hardly a bad thing, but I prefer Paul's movements: I find Paul's movement sinewy and catlike. You can always see his connection and the communication between him and his partner, and I like that.
grandcarriage1 5 months ago
Grand - So check out Jason here - Barnes & Cox.avi. I believe this is totally improv. Jessica who is far from my favorite dancer (but killer "form"...:-) ) with the imagination of an old cucumber - whereas Paul has Cat who is a much better dancer AND his regular partner. Jason still looks better despite these rugged conditions.... (though I am open to other input.).
Aner2557 8 months ago
Grand - Good point re: routine vs. improv. My focus was on the technique - would you not expect the technique to be equally good per dancer regardless of the environment - or am I being a little idealistic? I will try to find a Jason Barnes improv in which it appears he is matching his technique here - I have a few links because I enjoy his dancing skill. Best, Aner
Aner2557 8 months ago
@Aner2557 That is a very nice classic routine...very well rehearsed and performed. I like Jason's and Erica's dancing a great deal. I've actually led Jason in a workshop (infront of 80 some odd people...no pressure). I couldn't really compare the above inprov free-style of Paul and Cat's to a rehearsed routine. Apples and Oranges. To each their own, but thanks for the link to that performance. I hadn't seen it before.
grandcarriage1 8 months ago
Grand - For some reason I get an Error message when I post the link. However, if you search on the the below link, the dance is the 2nd result for Jason and Erica - of course the first result is fine - but the Windmill song is an absolute gem. I strongly expect you will fully enjoy. Jason is a very strong lead (obviously...:-). I am really a goof off dancer but dance with all the ladies and most of them like me...
West Coast Swing - Jason Barnes & Erica Berg 2006
Aner2557 9 months ago
@Aner2557 ...We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't suppose you lead? I both lead and follow, and have competed as both, so I may have a different perspective: I see how Paul uses his posture and center for effect: I feel confident he does what he does on purpose, & really admire his style and movement. Your link didn't come through, send it to me in a message?. I'm curious to see what personally appeals to you.
grandcarriage1 9 months ago
Here is a link to a dance with what I think you may agree is a somewhat stronger lead - and an equally or more delightful follow - with another magical song. I hope you enjoy it - it is also one of my favorites.
Aner2557 10 months ago
However, when I carefully watch all his movements I see enough elements to substantiate my basic point - Kat is a technically stronger dancer - consistently better posture, yada, yada. Likewise, it is helpful to do a dance like this with someone with who one has a lot of familiarity as they do. Regardless, there is plenty of neat composition in his lead that almost magically follows the music.
Aner2557 10 months ago
Hi Grand - To be clear - this is one of my favorite videos - and I have tried to dance this - albeit not with very experienced dancers - and have a hard time. I think a lot of the beauty is created by the music which is quite lovely and tends to push towards the movement you describe. I will also note that it is not as if I see all the American leads doing a better job - Kyle screws around as much as anyone and I see loads of improvement they could make to catch up with the ladies.
Aner2557 10 months ago
@Aner2557 I would have to politely disagree with most of your statements: I think they partner each other equally: one does not outshine or pull focus from the other, and I don't think they lack anything to CA or US dancers. I'm ON the West coast and this is some of the most lyrical WCS dancing I've ever seen. I think being in the UK is, it's own way, an asset for them, as they can approach the dance from a different perspective. I was completely blown away by their '09 BBtB Performance.
grandcarriage1 10 months ago