I Am Not A Full-Preterist...

I am no longer a full-preterist. Lord willing, I will address this subject some more. Grace to you.

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[MrsRosengard]

What do you mean by an individual resurrection? I am curious. You can message me.

[Bibletouchstone]

@MrsRosengard By individual resurrection, I mean the redemption of each soul's self-same body from corruption under the curse. I just started reading Ladd's "Blessed Hope" today, where in the introduction he describes the redemption of individuals and also society.

[mooglecharmed]

I was a Pre-millenialist before I came to Christ at 20. In fact it was fear of "the apocalypse" and anticipation of "the rapture" that I was saved in the first place. I became Partial Preterist about 4 years later. Within the last year I made the switch to FP but not based on any FP arguments; it was actually due to me combining history and prophecy with PP and a better sense of Messianic Kingdom background from men like NT Wright in NTPG and J&VG.

[mooglecharmed]

You're mixed up again. Paul said in 6:5 that this had taken place but is related to a MUCH larger scale resurrection that was coming at any moment. Resurrection they eagerly awaited in Rom 8:18-24 EVEN THOUGH they had already come to life by dying to sin and the law.

[sptrfn]

Not all the Olivet discourse has been fulfilled. In Matthew 24, Jesus talks about his return being like the days of Noah. That means that the fallen angels are going to return to mate with women like they did in Genesis 6. It says in Revelation that Michael will kick Satan and his angels down before Jesus returns. So, not all scripture has been fulfilled yet.

Now, some of Matthew 24 may have been about 70 A.D. because it was addressed to the Jews, but some was in the distant future.

[faithandpractice]

We sure all learning and growing aren't we? It takes humility for a person to change ones views. Someone else who is a "partial preterist" and a dear friend of mine is Steve Gregg. You may find his lectures interesting. They are all free on his website the narrow path dot com (all that's run together in the URL of course). He is also the author of Revelation four views: a parallel commentary.

[turtletype]

i agree moogle futurist of any kind have to dance over the obvious time frame first century.

[PeteWaldo]

Another key is the mathematical precision of FULFILLED prophecy

watch?v=ManZPZeROdc

beholdthebeast. com/mathematical_precision_of_­prophecy. htm

watch?v=7TKpuAsRiNM

watch?v=N39msxDcJiE

[PeteWaldo]

Once the Lord helps us overcome a false doctrine, the scales begin to be removed from our eyes. All the "overcommeth"ing of Rev chapters 2 and 3 isn't about overcoming Satan, except as he is the author of false doctrine.

Sadly, eschatology in the 20th century church, was limited to preterism and futurism, with the church blind to the traditional continuous-historic context with the exception of a few cults.

watch?v=_KtSpB4Id8I

One key lies in the lion, bear & leopard

watch?v=dJODE7Q2KcM

[knightday1973]

@mooglecharmed I was a FP and now am probably more of an idealist preterist. I think MT4 and associated passages were fulfilled. I read NT Wright's NTP, J & VG and the third one in this series. The one thing I got out of it which I felt I had to reverse on is that the general resurrection has not taken place. Wright argues forcefully from their culture of that time it would have to be physical and not spiritual as a FP who have to argue. Any comments?

[tmat04]

@Bibletouchstone

I scribe to the Preterist view. I think it is more accurate, according to the Bible, than is the Futurist view, which I gave credence to for years.

I do not believe that the Resurrection is physical. I believe that the RESURRECTION is CHRIST and CHRIST is the RESURRECTION! It takes place as an INNER BODY and an OUT-OF-BODY experience.

[Bibletouchstone]

@tmat04 No, not so much--but I am glad to have had the discussion with him.

[tmat04]

@Bibletouchstone

Mike Blume, (mfblume2)! I saw some videos in which you had a discussion with him.

[Bibletouchstone]

@tmat04 Don't know which Mike you mean--but not likely.