The Eglinton-Scarborough Crosstown is one of the largest transit expansion projects in North America today -- and it's happening right here in Toronto.
@MrIntangibleasset However, there are other ongoing projects that have secured funding. Spadina subway extension, Eglinton and Airlink. However, the common factor of these projects is "second priority". The Yonge-University-Spadina line is beyond its capacity, Downtown Relief line has been the first priority but too bad, the mayor and Ford Nation picked the second priority that attracts more votes. As a result of the current TTC projects, the riders will have a very hard time getting out of DT.
@bassplayer923 Well I guess whatever happens, you gotta blame the voters, they keep voting for McGuinty and his stupid Suzuki sponsored green agenda, which will only lead to higher taxes/costs and job losses. Greeks are learning the hard way the dangers of stupid overly socialist policies, I guess Ontarions will have to as well. Anyway nice discussion.
@MrIntangibleasset Yes, Ontario is also dragging down the whole country as well. McGuinty's green socialism has to stop at this point or unions need to disown him. Every province runs on debt, it's the matter of how well the politicians juggle around the budget. So far, Miller left a huge debt to Toronto and Mcguinty is leaving more debt to the province and the country. If they don't take an action now, whatever happened to Greece could also happen again over here.
@bassplayer923 Isn't Ontario heavily in debt though, with a declining economy? I read Moody's threatened to downgrade their credit rating. I'd love to see more freeways and transit, I just don't think we can afford it. We have a shitty economy and a dying manufacturing base, plus we're heavily in debt.
@MrIntangibleasset Both the drivers and the riders can blame Mike Harris for cutting out the transit expansion plans. Private sector isn't a secure factor, not reliable. The government can afford any projects but the matter is the mayor and the premier If you still want to stay on 'be grateful for what you have', experience the TTC by yourself and research about the funding itself.... there are many problems regarding TTC.
@MrIntangibleasset It gives the province headache because the 99-year lease valued too low than the actual value of the highway, along with the frequent toll hikes - higher than the inflation rate. Privatization doesn't always work and 407 isn't exactly a good case. Vancouver's SkyTrain does make sense on the other hand though.
@bassplayer923 IMO what Toronto really needs is another freeway to get to downtown, if the government get afford to build it the private sector should be allowed to, I personally don't like public transportation and avoid using it, I just want more freeways.
@bassplayer923 Why is the 407 a shame? It's usually pretty fast and well maintained, saves me a lot of commute time. This is because it's privately owned and maintained.. I'd love to see another 12 lane private expressway in Toronto, an alternative to the Gardner. Privatization is good.
@MrIntangibleasset As I stated previously, the problem is that Toronto is not invested enough in the public transit sector. In South Korea, they have extensive subway lines along with cheaper fares in various cities while the GDP is still lower than Canada ($1.01 Trillion vs $1.57 Trillion). The current ongoing projects don't have anything to do with the public transit inside Toronto, it's being invested in a wrong area. There are many criticism regarding Airlink and 407 itself. 407 is a shame.
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yvoe9 1 month ago 2
@MrIntangibleasset However, there are other ongoing projects that have secured funding. Spadina subway extension, Eglinton and Airlink. However, the common factor of these projects is "second priority". The Yonge-University-Spadina line is beyond its capacity, Downtown Relief line has been the first priority but too bad, the mayor and Ford Nation picked the second priority that attracts more votes. As a result of the current TTC projects, the riders will have a very hard time getting out of DT.
bassplayer923 1 month ago
@bassplayer923 Well I guess whatever happens, you gotta blame the voters, they keep voting for McGuinty and his stupid Suzuki sponsored green agenda, which will only lead to higher taxes/costs and job losses. Greeks are learning the hard way the dangers of stupid overly socialist policies, I guess Ontarions will have to as well. Anyway nice discussion.
MrIntangibleasset 1 month ago
@MrIntangibleasset Yes, Ontario is also dragging down the whole country as well. McGuinty's green socialism has to stop at this point or unions need to disown him. Every province runs on debt, it's the matter of how well the politicians juggle around the budget. So far, Miller left a huge debt to Toronto and Mcguinty is leaving more debt to the province and the country. If they don't take an action now, whatever happened to Greece could also happen again over here.
bassplayer923 1 month ago
@bassplayer923 Isn't Ontario heavily in debt though, with a declining economy? I read Moody's threatened to downgrade their credit rating. I'd love to see more freeways and transit, I just don't think we can afford it. We have a shitty economy and a dying manufacturing base, plus we're heavily in debt.
MrIntangibleasset 1 month ago
@MrIntangibleasset Both the drivers and the riders can blame Mike Harris for cutting out the transit expansion plans. Private sector isn't a secure factor, not reliable. The government can afford any projects but the matter is the mayor and the premier If you still want to stay on 'be grateful for what you have', experience the TTC by yourself and research about the funding itself.... there are many problems regarding TTC.
bassplayer923 1 month ago
@MrIntangibleasset It gives the province headache because the 99-year lease valued too low than the actual value of the highway, along with the frequent toll hikes - higher than the inflation rate. Privatization doesn't always work and 407 isn't exactly a good case. Vancouver's SkyTrain does make sense on the other hand though.
bassplayer923 1 month ago
@bassplayer923 IMO what Toronto really needs is another freeway to get to downtown, if the government get afford to build it the private sector should be allowed to, I personally don't like public transportation and avoid using it, I just want more freeways.
MrIntangibleasset 1 month ago
@bassplayer923 Why is the 407 a shame? It's usually pretty fast and well maintained, saves me a lot of commute time. This is because it's privately owned and maintained.. I'd love to see another 12 lane private expressway in Toronto, an alternative to the Gardner. Privatization is good.
MrIntangibleasset 1 month ago
@MrIntangibleasset As I stated previously, the problem is that Toronto is not invested enough in the public transit sector. In South Korea, they have extensive subway lines along with cheaper fares in various cities while the GDP is still lower than Canada ($1.01 Trillion vs $1.57 Trillion). The current ongoing projects don't have anything to do with the public transit inside Toronto, it's being invested in a wrong area. There are many criticism regarding Airlink and 407 itself. 407 is a shame.
bassplayer923 1 month ago