[Torrey 2009] Francis Chan: The Joy of Suffering - Biola University Chapel

Torrey Conference 2009 - Session #7. Francis Chan, Founding Pastor of Cornerstone Community Church, speaks on "The Joy of Suffering" (Philippians 3:8-11). Chapel from October 23, 2009.

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[andremzk]

wow, i guess i wasn't the only "crazy" one out there... I'm sorry God for backing off.

[iamallen00]

Thanks for sharing this vid. Convicting, I love it!

[GreenmeGo]

Thank you Francis for this talk, I am a firm believer of God and the Trinity.

[jmbates5179]

God hates abortion? The bible doesn't teach that. The word or concept of abortion isn't mentioned once in that book. Isn't it preachers who told you God hates abortion? Isn't it preachers who told you God is ready to torture billions of people? Why do you believe these people who claim to speak for God? Why do you believe a book that is jam packed full of errors and contradictions? See: skepticsannotatedbible dot co m

[jmbates5179]

Are you saying God loves people, therefore, if you don't "accept" God God will torture you? Yeah, that really makes a lot of sense. The lengths people will go to to excuse or justify the idea(s) of a torturing, genocidal, ultra-vicious "God" are really astounding. God's "holiness" demands that billions of people be tortured? Then he isn't loving, is he? Then he makes Hitler look like a really nice guy. Hitler only tortured a few million. Does your "God" (i.e. religion) make any sense?

[theshakter]

@jmbates5179 Read the bible (Word of God)

You need to understand that Gods love is perfect and that to me is scary because someone can say I love babes but that means I must hate abortion.

[kfizzlefazzle89]

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[muhammadzahmad]

an eye-opening video..thanks for sharing..

[oddolive]

I remember in suffering saying, "God gives transendent joy in suffering." I also have many times longed for those days. And this word, reflected in God's word, reminds me of why. I need to be careful not to run to safety, but run to Jesus!

[mamy101]

You are amazing brother.Keep on telling it just like it is.Jesus be with you.This was a great lesson for me.I needed it so much.Thank you and Lord bless you and your family.Mary

[jmbates5179]

He is a good speaker. And so humble. For all his talent he insists that this loving God will definitely throw billions into Hitler-like ovens in Hell, so they can scream forever. Huh? Love = torture? What? Righteousness = Infinite Pain? There is something wrong here. If suffering is to God's Glory, as Chan claims, then we should be whooping it up for the years of anguish "God" has in store for people who think Chan and his message is too cruel, too sociopathic to be true.