"Do atheists reject Christ because of reason? No, no. They reject him because of irrationality."
- Martyn Lloyd-Jones
After some days Felix came with his wife Drusilla, who was Jewish, and he ...
"Do atheists reject Christ because of reason? No, no. They reject him because of irrationality."
- Martyn Lloyd-Jones
After some days Felix came with his wife Drusilla, who was Jewish, and he sent for Paul and heard him speak about faith in Christ Jesus. And as he reasoned about righteousness and self-control and the coming judgment, Felix was alarmed and said, "Go away for the present. When I get an opportunity I will summon you." At the same time he hoped that money would be given him by Paul. So he sent for him often and conversed with him. When two years had elapsed, Felix was succeeded by Porcius Festus. And desiring to do the Jews a favor, Felix left Paul in prison. Now three days after Festus had arrived in the province, he went up to Jerusalem from Caesarea. And the chief priests and the principal men of the Jews laid out their case against Paul, and they urged him, asking as a favor against Paul that he summon him to Jerusalem--because they were planning an ambush to kill him on the way. Festus replied that Paul was being kept at Caesarea and that he himself intended to go there shortly. "So," said he, "let the men of authority among you go down with me, and if there is anything wrong about the man, let them bring charges against him." After he stayed among them not more than eight or ten days, he went down to Caesarea. And the next day he took his seat on the tribunal and ordered Paul to be brought. When he had arrived, the Jews who had come down from Jerusalem stood around him, bringing many and serious charges against him that they could not prove. Paul argued in his defense, "Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I committed any offense." But Festus, wishing to do the Jews a favor, said to Paul, "Do you wish to go up to Jerusalem and there be tried on these charges before me?" But Paul said, "I am standing before Caesar's tribunal, where I ought to be tried. To the Jews I have done no wrong, as you yourself know very well. If then I am a wrongdoer and have committed anything for which I deserve to die, I do not seek to escape death. But if there is nothing to their charges against me, no one can give me up to them. I appeal to Caesar." Then Festus, when he had conferred with his council, answered, "To Caesar you have appealed; to Caesar you shall go." Now when some days had passed, Agrippa the king and Bernice arrived at Caesarea and greeted Festus. And as they stayed there many days, Festus laid Paul's case before the king, saying, "There is a man left prisoner by Felix, and when I was at Jerusalem, the chief priests and the elders of the Jews laid out their case against him, asking for a sentence of condemnation against him. I answered them that it was not the custom of the Romans to give up anyone before the accused met the accusers face to face and had opportunity to make his defense concerning the charge laid against him. So when they came together here, I made no delay, but on the next day took my seat on the tribunal and ordered the man to be brought. When the accusers stood up, they brought no charge in his case of such evils as I supposed. Rather they had certain points of dispute with him about their own religion and about a certain Jesus, who was dead, but whom Paul asserted to be alive. Being at a loss how to investigate these questions, I asked whether he wanted to go to Jerusalem and be tried there regarding them. But when Paul had appealed to be kept in custody for the decision of the emperor, I ordered him to be held until I could send him to Caesar." Then Agrippa said to Festus, "I would like to hear the man myself." "Tomorrow," said he, "you will hear him." So on the next day Agrippa and Bernice came with great pomp, and they entered the audience hall with the military tribunes and the prominent men of the city. Then, at the command of Festus, Paul was brought in. And Festus said, "King Agrippa and all who are present with us, you see this man about whom the whole Jewish people petitioned me, both in Jerusalem and here, shouting that he ought not to live any longer. But I found that he had done nothing deserving death. And as he himself appealed to the emperor, I decided to go ahead and send him. But I have nothing definite to write to my lord about him. Therefore I have brought him before you all, and especially before you, King Agrippa, so that, after we have examined him, I may have something to write. For it seems to me unreasonable, in sending a prisoner, not to indicate the charges against him." (Act 24:24-27; 25:1-27)
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Mockery and ridicule is sadly the foundation of the Atheistic polemic - be assured that if you are wrong there is much less at stake in rejection of the existence of the spaghetti monster than Son of God, the mystery of devine personality in Christ Jesus - if it is true it changes everything and your situation is therefore perilous....may God grant you the faith to believe in his Son
I dont think it valid to wager as if God exists - the point I am making is the absurdity in the comparison is akin to thrashing a straw man - most radical sceptic athiests in their own philispohical and RELIGIOUS pre commitment to naturalistic materialism cant engage with another worldview without resorting to mockery (usually silly perjoritive remarks that they rip off from Dawkins and the like) and absurdity merely to attempt to win cheap debating points
You ceasing to believe something does not displace the reality of it. Jesus Christ, the mystery of devine personality, came not to make your life "good" - following Christ can bring great trial and hardship at times and ought not be dabbled with to see if it is of some "benefit" to you - rather the Gospel should be embraced because it is true - the Good News is that if you repent and believe in Jesus Christ and believe that God raised him from the dead - you will be saved - please consider this
in most theologies, i don't think god is represented as such a literal figure as a ghost, tooth fairy, or flying spaghetti monster...nor do i think it's wise to compare something deeply buried in human psychology (notion of God) to some fucking flying pasta.
although they basically resemble the same unknowns, I think the concept of God is tied in with a lot of human experience phenomenon, and therefore shoud be taken slightly more serious.
there really is no way to take it more seriously because aside from a theist's god comparable figures are all addressed with a certain amount of comedy. other gods are no exception. anyone here would find the notion of zeus, horus, or odin just as absurd.
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There are some going from one vidio to another tring to over throw the faith.
Remember Matt.7:6 and IJn 4:5,6,
although they basically resemble the same unknowns, I think the concept of God is tied in with a lot of human experience phenomenon, and therefore shoud be taken slightly more serious.
other gods are no exception. anyone here would find the notion of zeus, horus, or odin just as absurd.