Post Debate Review - Anarchism Versus Minarchism

Some thoughts about Sunday's debate with Jan Helfeld on Anarchism versus Minarchism

Category:

Education

Tags:

• debate
• anarchism
• minarchism
• Libertarian
• objectivist
• anarchy
• Constitution

[ExquisiteDoom]

Very good debate, that answered my question about violence though i had a vague idea the points you offer would be. I have one question though, a company works for profit. It's profit can be cumulated into savings, which could then be used to purchase weapons years later. If i get this right, the weapon's seller would have no incentive to supply the weapons as it could lead to a gang war, and the clients would certainly not embrace it? Mmmm, i think i get how anarchy works!

[stefbot]

...such a company would have to charge customers more, to cover the extra money it would have to save, and so would go out of business... :)

[DecassyJake]

Jan, You could have had twice as much time to dabate Stefan, and you would still have failed in the debate. You forgot your Socratic principles, you forgot 1st principles, you went off into a self serving nightmare future wherein NO principles are held dear. You might as well have been debating what forms of TERMINATOR robots would be best for subjicating mankind in a future society.

[BIackOp]

*And your ability to acknowledge his position, because most of your claims against was either an already answered question, or a straw-man that isn't historically true or has nothing to do with Anarchism and involves a Collapsed State. Maybe your ability with technology and the sound issues hampered the debate, but it just wasn't much of a debate when one side (you) could not contain a thought. Sorry, I wish it was more than that.

[FreiwilligFrei]

@Oyaji291

these were scare facts about minarchism. he said the minarchism experiment failed and jan couldnt give a real reason how to prevent it to happen again.

every time jan described the rogue dro wich overtakes teh society, he described the state that we have now!

[travis0629]

@survivalpodcasting any interaction which is voluntary is an example of anarchy.

[janhelfeld]

@jonathanaconway WORSE, he broke his word on compling with the agreed debate format and refused to answer my questions. Ask him if he willing to debate me in a neutral venue were he can't cut and run.

[jonathanaconway]

Interesting to see @janhelfeld's comments ignored and marked as "spam", while Stefan waffles on about non-essentials, without once caring to respond to any of Jan's questions.

[jonathanaconway]

@janhelfeld In a sense, it reveals the non-objectivity on which the whole anarchist position is based.

[slickbtk]

@stefbot not to mention the fact that if a company was able to amass such a large savings by running a legitimate company then its actors and owners have all the more incentive to continue to be legitimate. why risk existing proven success with movie line world domination pipe dreams? and of course thats just one logical check, obviously there would be hundreds of other objective checks that are not in the control of the would be tank buyers.

[1717jbs]

Very helpful, as always. Thanks Stef.

[BearWindAppleyard]

@survivalpodcasting I don't that much about it, but somewhere in Spain in a very short period between 1936-1939.

[survivalpodcasting]

So name one and even just ONE time in history that anarchism actually worked.

[silentthriller]

Personally, if a DRO uses lethal force, I wouldn't be willing to pay for that. Alternatively, if technology advanced a weapon that puts a aggressor in a psychedelic state, I'd be willing to pay for that.