The Convair 880 was always my favorite plane, even more so than the 990, just because it was like the more graceful more sleek looking version of the Boeing 707. It was just beautiful. It's like the Concorde of regular passenger liners to me.
I flew the 880 for 4 years (81-84) for the US Navy. Its fast all right. We'd cruise up to .93Mach. Burned a LOT of fuel! And black smoke! Fun to fly like a fighter (overhead 360 patterns at Navy Patuxent River). But.. a real dog for stiff flight controls! Smooth flight due to impossible to snap it around!
Amazing wing, flaps down to 55. LE flaps just like 727. CV-880M wing was best mod.
Convair didn't actually simply go out of business. They were quite profitable. They designed and built many Tomahawk Cruise Missles, and had made more money than M-Douglass on the DC-10 and KC-10 project. Convair built the largest part of the Space Shuttles. They did very well after the 880/990 days. General Dynamics sold the company for profit to Lockheed Martin.
Afraid you are wrong. The 880 still holds some time/distant records today for a passenger jet. A delivery flight across the States west to east & then same aircraft, Boston to Miami, gate to gate. Also the Hong Kong to Bangkok. Probably records that will never be beaten.
The C880 was not faster than the Boeing jets; the initial C990 wasn't 'much' faster either. Redesigns however enabled it to boast ~ 25+ top cruise speed advantage over the 707/720s. The jet was not cost effective, having limited range/capacity, and it was late...Boeing & Douglas had their contracts, Convair was left out in the cold. The advent of the efficient new Boeing 727s put the nails in the coffin. However, the Convair 990 was a superb plane otherwise. I understand pilots loved it.
@danje10
I thought the MMO on that plane was like 0.884? I take it mach-tuck issues weren't bad enough to allow it to be pushed faster.
KJLesnick 11 months ago
@blue46gt oh you're right... AND it was polite to the environment lol.
estupido7490 1 year ago
@estupido7490 and it belched smoke like a chimney
blue46gt 1 year ago
Correct you are!
jkllad 2 years ago
Convair 880's max speed: 880 ft/s
Convair 990's max speed: 990 km/h
GC0020 2 years ago
The Convair 880 was always my favorite plane, even more so than the 990, just because it was like the more graceful more sleek looking version of the Boeing 707. It was just beautiful. It's like the Concorde of regular passenger liners to me.
estupido7490 3 years ago
I flew the 880 for 4 years (81-84) for the US Navy. Its fast all right. We'd cruise up to .93Mach. Burned a LOT of fuel! And black smoke! Fun to fly like a fighter (overhead 360 patterns at Navy Patuxent River). But.. a real dog for stiff flight controls! Smooth flight due to impossible to snap it around!
Amazing wing, flaps down to 55. LE flaps just like 727. CV-880M wing was best mod.
We made a tanker of it to refuel F/A-18 Hornet.
danje10 3 years ago
Convair didn't actually simply go out of business. They were quite profitable. They designed and built many Tomahawk Cruise Missles, and had made more money than M-Douglass on the DC-10 and KC-10 project. Convair built the largest part of the Space Shuttles. They did very well after the 880/990 days. General Dynamics sold the company for profit to Lockheed Martin.
danielsproat 3 years ago
Afraid you are wrong. The 880 still holds some time/distant records today for a passenger jet. A delivery flight across the States west to east & then same aircraft, Boston to Miami, gate to gate. Also the Hong Kong to Bangkok. Probably records that will never be beaten.
adrenachrome05 3 years ago
The C880 was not faster than the Boeing jets; the initial C990 wasn't 'much' faster either. Redesigns however enabled it to boast ~ 25+ top cruise speed advantage over the 707/720s. The jet was not cost effective, having limited range/capacity, and it was late...Boeing & Douglas had their contracts, Convair was left out in the cold. The advent of the efficient new Boeing 727s put the nails in the coffin. However, the Convair 990 was a superb plane otherwise. I understand pilots loved it.
tocaloEddie 4 years ago