Education 1: Respecting Children

Some ideas on schools, teaching, children, and learning.

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[ruotze]

STOP BRAINWASHING THE KIDS AT SCHOOL

[aaron0883]

This is the same justification most parents use. They make the parent child relationship a fight, instead of respecting.

It makes no sense that children evolved to want to piss everyone off, and do the most irresponsible things. This is why I find this idea super rooted in religion .. However, most people believe it because they don't want to accept that their own parents were shitty.

[Swampymcswamp]

I do not think humans are "good" or "bad", that would be an arbitrary dogmatic hypothesis. Having been in a store before, I've seen a kid "act up" because the parent was antagonizing them. However, It can also be a junk-food addiction. In that dichotomy, its' a vicious cycle.

Being at the trade school, dorm staff do not acknowledge feedback about toxic leadership at least from the dorm staff I have had to be burdened with.

[giddymoon]

Aaron; as a mom who home schooled herself thought high school and has 4 kids..my kids were in public schools for awhile and it was one nightmare after another...I now unschool 3 teen boys..and they are happy and smart..I agree with everything you just said..good for you for speaking out!

[phidvid]

@aaron0883 Obviously you and I have a very different understanding of discipline. My discipline doesn't involve a hint of abuse, I have never laid a finger on a child, nor would I verbally abuse them. My discipline however, teaches that there are consequences for actions, so that people can't just 'rape' and think that it is fine.

[patokeeffe331]

@aaron0883 you are a ridiculous man. you are lamenting a system whereby all kids are treated the same and we neglect their particular needs. and then you suggest a system where we treat all the kids the same. Sure rigid structure and discipline will cause some kids to rebel but others will rebel if we show no discipline. I know even as an adult that attempting to make decisions that are best for me without any outside guidance is foolish. How can we expect kids to know!

[aaron0883]

@phidvid darn ... your response sounds a little sarcastic. I guess throwing lovingly in front of horrible abuse doesn't negate the abuse. However, I guess some people feel empowered by the abuse they inflict since it is supported by the status quo ... so with those forms we can throw lovingly in front of horrible abuse and it seems more justified. I will remember that for future reference. thanks.

[phidvid]

@aaron0883 Great analogy!! That's exactly the same...well done!

[aaron0883]

@phidvid sure ... and I like to lovingly rape random women from time to time

[phidvid]

@aaron0883 There are studies that say just about anything. I could quote you hundreds of studies that oppose your views, but I don't think the point is to quote studies. I can see this could be an endless debate between two opposing views, there's no way your opinion is going to change, neither is mine, hopefully people can see that there are differing beliefs and not everything you say is 'fact'.

[phidvid]

@phidvid Particularly if you believe it is impossible to lovingly discipline a child. This is something I do everyday!

[aaron0883]

@phidvid There are studies that show that children are born with a capacity for empathy. I encourage you to read some books by Alfie Cohn ... specifically a book titled 'Punished By Rewards'. I don't think there is the desire or ability to discuss pop behaviorism adequately in the comment section of a video.