Ensiferum-Old Man (Väinämöinen)

So much farther off than time could reach
Today it would be too late
So much despair he has bled
but will he wither away
No one knows that you must keep
this Old Man wide awake
'cause no one knows that he could feed
our lives with a brighter flame

Hush little dreamer, the bearer of light
has come to set you free
Now little dreamer at last you can sigh
'cause the nightmares will be released

Sweeter far than life I found that love was
Sweeter far than love to die as he did

The stars fell from the nightsky
as he reached his hands in the air
As the sun peeked between the trees
the Old Man burst to tears

Category:

Music

Tags:

• ensiferum
• metal
• viking
• pagan
• black
• folk
• Old
• Man
• Väinämöinen
• 2001

[FedorCroCop44]

rap sucks

[Anarchy17SB]

I want this song to play in the background at my funeral.

[lkoinuchan]

@arkhibas I see what you mean :3

[arkhibas]

@arkhibas lol How about goverment based on THE truth not some damn religion? life would be much more easier....

[arkhibas]

@lkoinuchan :) what i meant with my comment was that christianity has had actually much less influence in Finland than in any other country. Then again concept of religion is paradox in itself lol all think they believe in truth while willingly admitting that it's just religion, something you just believe. Now you know why i get easily mixed up with all the words, they are never fully clear in their meaning... And yes i'm from Finland :p

[lkoinuchan]

@arkhibas I understand what you mean, but to clarify, paganism is in fact a religion (or rather several). If you don't believe, then you aren't pagan, no matter how entwined the myths or deities may be in your culture (which is very strongly in the case of Finish culture). I say this from being pagan myself. -- Christianity also has a culture, may I add (a rather strong one, which often bring peoples' beliefs far from those of doctrine). Every religion has its own culture.

[arkhibas]

Naa Pagans don't believe. paganism isn't religion in finland, as one might say. It's way of life. it's attached to Finnish languange, to it's culture and it's ways. While christianity is just religion, old ways help survive better in hard cold north :) they are different things. pagan gods are replaced by christianity, yes, but the ways are always same.

[lkoinuchan]

@Verilepakko I personally don't think Väinämöinen would've been so anti-christianity. The Finnish didn't mind mixing Christian beliefs w/ their own b/c then there were more stories they could tell. That's just what I read though. Väinämöinen would have been upset if the ppl had rejected the old ways entirely but he's far from forgotten, so I think he'd be fine. Pagan deities are usually okay with ppl worshiping multiple deities, especially if they're from a pantheon

[lkoinuchan]

@Verilepakko Oh, okay lol I misunderstood what you said. I had thought that you had thought it was just a cross, and not realized it was the flag. Yeah the Scandinavian cross symbolizes Christianity, but I think it is also used to give the Scandinavian countries a sense of unity. I could be wrong though. (word count -->)

[Verilepakko]

@lkoinuchan Yeah but it's still a cross... You know, a cross flag symbolizing a christian country...

[lkoinuchan]

@Verilepakko lol That's the Finnish flag. ;p