this video is definitely trying to appear neutral when it's so clear that this is another attempt by georgia so called right to life folks and anti-choice folks to frame the larger discussion and incredibly important conversation that needs to happen around basic human rights and social responsibility and apply these concerns only to the so-called unborn. I was at the judiciary committee meeting where this amendment was rejected by even conservative georgia house members- and for good reason.
what about the value of humans after their born. you know, guaranteed health care, abolition of the death penalty, you know, that sort of thing...
I don't see all you anti-abortion people adopting all these babies that get abandoned in the foster care system...
If you people put as much energy into advocating for a guaranteed free high quality health care system as you did about killing a dang fetus, the world would be a better place.
Ciphermax, I understand that different denominations can have different interpretations of what's in the Bible. However, you never answered my question asking for a reference. Otherwise, are you not just throwing out an assertion that God would want some babies to be aborted without any evidence to think that?
I cannot give you a passage and I am a christian and also human therefor the "human philosophy" comes into play also I think everyone has their own thoughts as to what the "BOOK" means and how they what to live by it. I think Baptist, Methodist, all the churchs in the world think that they have a lock on how GOD whats you to see his "BOOK" by the way I call it the "BIBLE"
Ciphermax, can you back up your assertion that God "doesn't want people to suffer" to the extent that He'd rather they be aborted instead? Please give me at least one passage from scripture that reflects that - otherwise you are placing your human philosophy on God. (something He probably doesn't appreciate much) Sometimes Christians make the same mistake, and they're just as wrong. If we're going to say what God wants, we probably ought to be taking it from the book He wrote.
I am. Hughtub established God as creator. He established religion as man made and unnecessary, being gradually replaced by science. The moral code is based on nature and sin enters in when we go against nature. Hughtub believes that morally all humans inferior to their parents should be exterminated, to do otherwise is to sin. Sin assumes consequence. I wonder what consequence parents of "deformed" children should suffer for the sin of letting their child live.
These were hard questions and I believe he answered them with honesty. I don't think religion came into play here. I believe that there is a time that even God would not want a baby to suffer though what little time they would have on this earth in order to satisfy the wants of the "Pro-Life"
While I do seem to be anti-religion, I'm not. I think religion provides a beneficial moral basis for society, but the more we find out about science, the more religions recede. All of the miracles of religions occur at their origin, oddly.
this video is definitely trying to appear neutral when it's so clear that this is another attempt by georgia so called right to life folks and anti-choice folks to frame the larger discussion and incredibly important conversation that needs to happen around basic human rights and social responsibility and apply these concerns only to the so-called unborn. I was at the judiciary committee meeting where this amendment was rejected by even conservative georgia house members- and for good reason.
alexsarahrules 3 years ago
Human life has no innate value, except for that which we place on it.
If a Gazelle, or a Lion, or an elephant doesn't have the right to life, why should we?
iamjackscolin 4 years ago
what about the value of humans after their born. you know, guaranteed health care, abolition of the death penalty, you know, that sort of thing...
I don't see all you anti-abortion people adopting all these babies that get abandoned in the foster care system...
If you people put as much energy into advocating for a guaranteed free high quality health care system as you did about killing a dang fetus, the world would be a better place.
blackberryjuice1 4 years ago
Ciphermax, I understand that different denominations can have different interpretations of what's in the Bible. However, you never answered my question asking for a reference. Otherwise, are you not just throwing out an assertion that God would want some babies to be aborted without any evidence to think that?
prolifeguy83 4 years ago
I cannot give you a passage and I am a christian and also human therefor the "human philosophy" comes into play also I think everyone has their own thoughts as to what the "BOOK" means and how they what to live by it. I think Baptist, Methodist, all the churchs in the world think that they have a lock on how GOD whats you to see his "BOOK" by the way I call it the "BIBLE"
ciphermax 4 years ago
Ciphermax, can you back up your assertion that God "doesn't want people to suffer" to the extent that He'd rather they be aborted instead? Please give me at least one passage from scripture that reflects that - otherwise you are placing your human philosophy on God. (something He probably doesn't appreciate much) Sometimes Christians make the same mistake, and they're just as wrong. If we're going to say what God wants, we probably ought to be taking it from the book He wrote.
prolifeguy83 4 years ago
I am. Hughtub established God as creator. He established religion as man made and unnecessary, being gradually replaced by science. The moral code is based on nature and sin enters in when we go against nature. Hughtub believes that morally all humans inferior to their parents should be exterminated, to do otherwise is to sin. Sin assumes consequence. I wonder what consequence parents of "deformed" children should suffer for the sin of letting their child live.
theonomus 4 years ago
Are you the person that interveiwed this man?
ciphermax 4 years ago
These were hard questions and I believe he answered them with honesty. I don't think religion came into play here. I believe that there is a time that even God would not want a baby to suffer though what little time they would have on this earth in order to satisfy the wants of the "Pro-Life"
ciphermax 4 years ago
While I do seem to be anti-religion, I'm not. I think religion provides a beneficial moral basis for society, but the more we find out about science, the more religions recede. All of the miracles of religions occur at their origin, oddly.
hughtub 4 years ago