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@jsh020 Like you said Endgame was a hell of a lot better than Appeal. That's entirely true. And to me, it's seems like Appeal was sort of an experiment that they didn't completely do right, and Endgame seems like what they really wanted to turn into. But it isn't fair to say they aren't punk still, because the sound isn't really what makes music punk. It's the message. Bad Religion sounds completely different than when they first started, but they're still punk.
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@sevenmarcg no i realize bands need to change music, im a strong believer in that, its just that the music they are getting into isnt that good, endgame was a hell of alot better than appeal to reason was, thats for sure, they need to take some time off and realize what made them so great in the first place and try to cader to both sides, they got that perfect mix with suffer and witness, they need it back
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@jsh020 That's not really fair to say. All musicians change their sound at some point in their career. Their morals and beliefs are still the same, which in my opinion, is what really determines if a band is punk. Sure, Revolutions Per Minute is 1000 times better than Appeal to Reason, but they're still punk.
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@sevenmarcg they really are not punk anymore
i love RA and all but they need to go back to roots
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@jsh020 But if they had to open for any band, i'm glad it was rise against. one of the only reasonable punk bands left that formed recently
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@sevenmarcg yah but its a shame that bad religion has fallen so far they need to open for a band now
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@jsh020 I'm entirely jealous that you saw my favorite two bands live.
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@nathanss28 really? BR have been original and very much punk for a very long time. The subject matter, speedy beat, and disregard for making "pop" is what makes them soething special in the musical atmosphere today. To say only one of thier albums were awesome is a shame on your part, you're not a fan of BR so save the bs.
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theres nothing wrong with not being raw or aggressive. its great some of the time but this is still melodic and has good lyrics. if it sounds good and has good lyrics, why complain? i mean, ill agree suffer and no control are better albums for sure, but its still great.
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@xandepope the band is 30 years old though probably what he meant to say
fuck you if you think Bad Religion sold out to a sound that isn't "punk enough." Who the hell are you to decide what punk is? All the best punk bands, the Clash, the Ramones, the Descendants, fucking all of them, changed their sound at some point down the road. It's called artistic maturity. All of it is good in the style it was composed in. The guys are 30 years old, I'm pretty sure they can sound however the fuck they want and still have credit for one of the best punk bands to ever live.
bricro87 9 months ago 21
i felt like a total ass when i went to the show in baltimore a few months back and only knew a couple of songs from these guys, i was so set on seeing rise against instead i ended up underestimating how amazing these legends are,
jsh020 7 months ago 16