Cecil Taylor (1st of 5)

Cecil Taylor in solo concert Munich Germany 1984

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[KingMinosxxvi]

you people are talkingto much this shit is the bomb. thats all know

[bobjazz11]

@KingMinosxxvi

So WTF are you bothering to post for?

[bobjazz11]

I have no interest in defining what music 'is', in any way that would lead me to be accused of presenting some form of Meta-narrative, so I can only reply as an individual.

There is an element of WTF? when I listen to some music I must admit, but I find that in the case of performers like Taylor, these are more than compensated for by the periods where I feel elation.

I am happy with Anthony Braxton's definition of music as 'organized sound' personally - it seems to cover everything for me!

Bob

[freejazzfree]

you dont even have a vague notion... i wouldnt call that an opinion. maybe if you made an attempt to understand the form he's working with i would consider what you're saying an 'opinion'.

[bobjazz11]

This performance certainly does qualify as a text., and thus as a language (be it somewhat hermeneutic) ... And I believe theroyalpriest is confusing 'meaning' with 'definition', but is still nonetheless entitled to his opinion... i would like to know your positions here re 'communicate'. The meaning I ascribe to this performance may have little to do with the authors intention but it's not at all clear that that is the sole purpose of 'organized sound'

I do have an MA in music by the way

Bob

[ZurDruid]

organized sound is more powerful because of its effects of sound.

The meaning and the sound are ONE... analyzing like language is to do experiments or cience , musical science, etc..

but the perception may be unexplinaay blbe...

jaja saludos

[bobjazz11]

Hi

At the very least I would insist that when Cecil Taylor plays he provokes a response in me.

That response, while dependent upon the stimulus is not the stimulus - it is something other.

The meaning for me then is a consequence of - but not the same thing as - the sound.

Indeed for sound to qualify as 'organized' it requires an 'organizer' - and the internal state of that organizer will change over time - thus the meaning will change - although the recording sound will 'remain the same'

Bob

[Easleytee]

@bobjazz11

I prefer Varese's definition of music:

"The corporealization of intelligence that lives within sound."

[nobodady1]

There is a basic aspect of CT's approach that I have not heard any mention of. Cecil may play many notes, and many at a time, but he seems to play one gesture at a time, and each gesture is an entire committment of his whole body.  He doesn't divide his body up, like most pianist --- between right and left.

[Megajosh2]

My ears are really happy.

[mghands]

@liszt100 It's a laserdisc: on the Phillips label, "Summer Piano Festival". BET has been know to air this from time to time, which might be an easier way to get a copy of the full performance.

[zarkoasenov]

It is "Reinforced Concrete"?

[Squibbles1]

Bebop-a-dib-dru-druba, bip-dip@dib-dip/pic''a/ppic'a badabaBom Rhuaa!

[Squibbles1]

Bebop-a-dib-dru-druba

[Oshooun11]

Taylor's style of music is classified as avant-garde. It is the backbone of today's jazz structures from punk rock to the smooth modern stuff. He uses modal jazz. Yes, it is purposely fragmented, with sustained notes following higher shrill notes. The music is in the 'abstract' category. Love it or hate it, this man is one of the greatest innovaters of the avant-garde jazz genre.