Noah Wasn't a Righteous Man

This clip came from the sermon Suffering To Learn, part of Mars Hill Church's Trial series through 1&2 Peter. For more content from this sermon, please visit http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/trial/suffering-to-learn

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[gioshmedina]

wow, the uploader really cut off the video at a bad spot. it creates confusion as the top rated comments seem to indicate. If you watch the rest of the video, he goes on to explain how Noah was bad, God chose Noah, THEN Noah was righteous. Verse 9 (as so many have brought attention to) is the beginning of a new pericope or paragraph which indicates a certain amount of time or new setting is in place. So Noah was evil but God showed grace to him, to which Noah's response is righteousness

[leafs4ever676]

@k1ngp0wn If Noah was really righteous he wouldnt have got drunk off his own grapes (Genesis 9). Noah definately lived a morally upright life compaired to other people, but thats because he had the Holy Spirit sanctifying him. What mr. Driscol is saying here is that Noah was just like us, as SINNER who needed GRACE, and if not for Gods grace, Noah would not have been walking with God and would have died in the flood with everyone else.

[karaj555]

@backspaceandbrowse It clearly says that "all" mankind was bad. Now, ot says Noah was just and walked with God, but that doesn't make Him righteous. Our righteousness comes from the law of grace through what Christ did for us all... including Noah. God looked apon him through grace not the law. Noah was not righteous by the law(on his own). 

[backspaceandbrowse]

: usually, i listen to mark without any question but this time, something prompted me to read the chapter for myself. in this clip, he only talked up until verse 8 but did not mention verse 9. It is really dangerous when we do not read the scriptures wholly before interpreting it. I agree that everything that we have is because of Grace/Favor and Mark is stressing that out. He is a sinner and needs grace. DEFINITELY. But V.9 clearly states that Noah was just and walked with God.

[teachercath]

Mark Driscoll you need Jesus and read your Bible properly. This is ridiculous.

[AmericanCryer]

Never points out the verses before verse 5, when it talks about the sons of God coming to the daughters of men and bare children. Could this be why men were becoming wicked? Could it be that Noah was perfect in his generations because the Sons of God did not intermarry in his generations? "And there were Giants in those days and there after", so this tells me that either his generations were not perfect, or that the flood did not kill everyone after all.

[yisoonshin12]

Gen. 6:9 "this is the account of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked with God." Perhaps among means the same thing as compared to... but of course he did some bad stuff in his life

[thomasswilson]

In all honesty, I want to agree with Driscoll on his interpretation, but frankly, the text just doesn't say that Noah was unrighteous. That's the exact opposite point the author is making. He's CONTRASTING Noah with humanity, showing him to be a righteous man. You can't say there's a chronology succession from 6:5-6:8, either. The author is just focusing in on Noah in 6:9. See Gen. 2:4 for an example of this literary device. And Noah got grace, i.e. God coulda killed him too, but didn't. Simple.

[SoldierOfChrist110]

More ridiculous hogwash!

[Strefanasha]

well i would rather believe the Bible than Driscoll. Noah was righteous. Driscoll is drawing uttertly false conclusions from the idea that Noah was good, thus rejects it as a straw man.

so an all inclusive idea that everone was bad all the time allows for NO exceptions? Ridiculous!!

Sloppy thinking from a religious crank.

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He is saying that Noah had no good fruit from his faith gotten BEFORE the flood.

what little respect I iahd for this man has now vanished.

[selahkleaning]

Uhhhhhhhh What about Gen. 6:9 ?

[waxheadglossy]

gen.6- ch8 But Noah found favor with the lord. and now on to gen.6 ch.9 This is the story of Noah and his family.Noah was a RIGHTEOUS man,the only BLAMESS man living on earth at the time.He consistently followed God's will and enjoyed a close relationship with him.