The Manifesto of the Communist Party ☭

WHat a great little piece...even though I was horrified by Communist China and the USSR in the 80s (and I visited the GDR), I still remember reading the Communist Manifesto when I was in High School and thinking it held some basic truths. With globalization this is more true than ever. But Communist parties themselves have never really been able to "capitalize" on this classic story from Marx and Engels. Who knows what the future holds...

I am self-oriented, and that does not mean i do things for myself and only myself. The people i love and my dog are of great value to me. I would take a bullet for them because they are everything to me. By what you say, i really think you would be interested in Ayn Rand's philosophy. If you could really give it an honest glance, I greatly believe you would find it very liberating and wonderful.

Coercion implies force. cooperation implies volition. A complete contradiction. To coerce them to build the bridge is slavery. If they do it voluntarily it is cooperation. They cooperate because it is in their self interest, just like a voluntary army. A draft would be coercion. People will fight when it is right.

Secondly a lot of resources r renewable. and when one resources run out, they can adapt and, with the creativity that capitalism allows, find different uses for different resources.

I hate to say it but when the people around you find out you are so self-orientated, you're gonna end up with very few friends to call on when you need help.

Ten people live on the side of a large, fast river. After a few years they consume all the natural resources on their side while the other side has an abundance of resources. One man stands up and says "Hey, let's all work together to build a bridge to the other side." You could easily say this man is using coercion to get the bridge built. You could also say he's doing it for selfish means but the fact is the whole group benefits. Coercion is not always a bad thing. Coercion = cooperation.

I wouldn't do that! I don't think man can only offer material. We r rational beings & can, unlike other animals, plan long term & chose however we wish 2 live our lives. Other animals r programed in an almost stereotypical way, 2 do only wat they're taught for their survival. We, as humans, have a much larger capacity than that. I advocate capitalism, which allows man to interact free from coercion, so that i'm able to make the best of my life, via effort and right to keep fruits of that effort.

I'm sorry, but i could ask the same of you. wat difference would it make. I am not saying that man should seek riches for the sake of riches. If he is doin somethin he truly values, such as all world changing icons did, he is still working in his self-interest. Man's work is his glory. He can claim that this is his own mind at work, that his brilliance can accomplish anything he sets his mind to. He is man, the animal of reason and free will.

If you really believe what you say then test it out. Get rid of all your stuff and go live in the woods completely alone. You seem to think that the only contribution is material. What about the vast amount of information we've gathered over thousands of years? You can not put a value on that. Without all that information you would die, plain and simple. We do need each other, even if it's only the information passed down to us by our ancestors.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you do exactly? Can you compare it to the work of Albert Einstein? Nikola Tesla? I'm pretty sure that whatever you do will never equal the value of the work of these men and others like them. They didn't do what they did for money, they both died poor. Sure, they could have done it for themselves, but I'd like to think they wanted to further mankind as a whole, which they did quite well.

That is exactly the benefit we have for living in a society. I agree with u, but we do not need each other to survive; reason is our only mode of survivial.

I agree with you that we all BENEFIT, not depend, on the effort of others, but MY point is that they do their effort for their own self-interest. Inventors invent to make money, or cuz they truly love wat they do, as they should. And when they pursue their rational self-interest, I also benefit. They then TRADE with me, value for value.