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If you be Christ then ye are Abrahams seed and heirs according to the Promise!

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[IndigoPriest]

here is a little known thing about the 144000, the names given to the children of jacob or isreal or the overcomer, had meanings attached to them. for instance issachar meant purchased. John the son of thunder, picked specific names of the tribe, and put them in a specific order. get the name meanings from the torah, write them out in the order john describes and it will tell a story of the 144000. it describes who the 144000 are. check it out, is this a reasonable thing to do? let me know.

[Jondadon2006]

@IndigoPriest

excellent! This is what is in the presentation. Have a watch :) thanks for your input

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

If the Body of Christ is the 144,000 Jews from tribes Isreal then who is going to be raptured? You put a lot of time and effort into making this video series i can see. with all love and kindness i have to tell you that the bible states that the 144,000 are Jews. Not the body of Christ.

[Jondadon2006]

....Also the doctrine of the rapture is also unbiblical because it is using a time prophecy which was taken out of context (Daniel 9:24-27)

The ground work must be done first otherwise scripture gets twisted

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@Jondadon2006 maybe your the one twisting Gods words, i think so. Taking Gods word out of context. Jesus Christ himself said from all tribes Of isreal 144,000

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

If you say the gentiles are from the trib of Isreal you sir are twisting the words of God to suit your own private interpretation.

[Jondadon2006]

@SilentPrayingmanTis

Like I said, look at the symbolism in the Bible. Why are these not the original tribes? Can you explain that?

Anyone who accepts Christ as the Bible says is a spiritual jew. It is not twisting as I have given you scripture. That is how it works. I have given you Romans 2:28, 29 and Gal 3:28, 29 so you should tell me what they mean if it is error? Especially look at Heb 8 which is the covenant to Judah. Whose line is Judah? JESUS.

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@1struthalways at least us the word Lord in the context of Christ please. you wana argue with some one go someplace else and dont be a fool, ill say this one last time we will be changed, get our NEW INCORUPTABLE BODIES on the DAY that Christ returns NOT before, sooo we WILL be here on hte LAST 7 years of TRIBULATION. MK. Also, master is a deragatory word used buy people who did NOT belive Jesus was the Christ, but maybe just another rabbi at best. good day.

[1struthalways]

@SilentPrayingmanTis It is your perogative to stand by what you say howvever all the standing will not make what is not biblical... be biblical, believe me I wish it were not true I would rather not go thru it I it were not so..& we are not meant for wrath.. God's no one in the history of the bible suffered God's wrath who was in His grace, however all suffered under the arche type of persecution we are not better than the master what makes you think we will any less the Paul or Peter or Christ?

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@1struthalways I stand buy what i wrote 8 months ago. And to clearify i believe in a pre wrath rapture, to quote the bible "1Th 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come." 1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

Now,we will be transformed but i belive the the kingdom and grace periods will over lap i n the last days as in the past

[1struthalways]

@SilentPrayingmanTis (3) that state he who endures...endures means to go through and sustain...what does this denote to you?

[1struthalways]

@SilentPrayingmanTis (2) there is none that denote God lifting us up and out of danger...here is one that is according to the character of God...The three young man of Daniel who were cast into the furnace...the scrip says there was a fourth like the Son of God....KJV any other translation even NKJV leaves one to wonder who it truth was that waited out the flames...it was God Himself...this to me denotes He will walk us through it not take us out of it..never mind all the verses

[1struthalways]

@SilentPrayingmanTis I would also point out what my brother in Christ did not and that it is illogical to the character of God, the rapture where God swoops and steals the Church out of danger (this denotes a god of chaos, which I don't no about you but the God I serve is not a God of chaos) not only this but give me two examples where God swooped in and lifted a group of people out of danger, all of the reference of the bible which is to be our example we are to follow...

[shellz641]

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[promisesrkept]

These are all too common examples of the methods cults use to attract, keep, and control the ignorant and unsuspecting among us.

[promisesrkept]

The best way to deal with the counterfeit is to become familiar with the genuine. People fall for cults because they are ignorant of truth.