Adjust your car computer to work with HHO

*UPDATED* Someone pointed this out. You can get the Electronic Fuel Enhancer Manual here: http://rapidshare.com/files/104596619/EFIE_Manual.pdf.html
TO get the most out of your HHO cell on your car you need to trick the computer so it does not add more fuel when your hho makes a cleaner burn. Here is a circuit that will do just that. It is not my own design, but the info so very important that it needs to be posted! I am posting this temporarily. I plan on replacing this with my own video showing install and to explain operation. Enjoy this while you can as I will be taking it down in a while. This is a TEXT video (Yes another one) with no audio. USE YOUR PAUSE BUTTON to read it.

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[gsxrhubb]

that's true "cheap" BUT! what about the timing of a HHO engine

According to "Roy McAlister" American Hydrogen Association, the timing for a hydrogen engine should be a 0 degree/TDC (TopDeadCenter) compression.......that would take alot more then adjusting the 02 sensor to fix

Even with a distributor engine w/modern electronics you would need a programmable "ECM" with enough retarding of timing to accomplish this

"DIS" engines are NOT a good conversion for "HHO"

[cheaphardwarez]

I dont think hho cells make enough change to need timing changes like Roy suggest. We are not adding anywhere near 5%-7% BTU input in hydrogen that Roy is doing.

[cheaphardwarez]

The test car was a 200 plymoth voyager. Adding offset voltage to the oxygen sensor make the computer read it as a 'rich' mixture and therefore reduced the applied fuel.

[patro46]

Yes. Provided your system is working as designed, your o2 sensor will "read" the burnt hydrogen (VERY oxygen rich) and interpret it as a lean condition (low voltage signal from o2 sensor) and "richen" your fuel mixture defeating any potential gains you might achieve....so we "add voltage to" the existing signal fooling the ECM into thinking it's still a gas guzzler as it was designed to be. It's called "beating them at their own game"...hehe...

Peace

[lisaandsteveandcj]

i have tried everything on my 4ltr cherokee and from the start my fuel consumption got worse ? got a good cell 100 pounds map sensor 50pounds efie 70pounds and 3months of wasted time the only people who are saving money with hho are the people selling us the products?? ok prove me wrong make it work on my car i am not stupid and understand the basics also have all the equipment installed? regards steve

[juggernautxtr]

@aaaflooddrying

it's a simple matter of people trying over think the matter at hand. kiss(keep it simple stupid) meyers pictures are far more telling at what is going on than his explanation.

meyers was a back yard scientist of sorts. he just modernized what john deere had done in the 1900's. yeah surprisingly john deere was the first to hydrogen power. just didn't have the power to compete with gas at that time. and was totally forgotten till meyers brought it back up.

[aaaflooddrying]

@aaaflooddrying I also think too many people are chasing a brass ring that's to hard to obtain. If more people incorporarted Roy Mcaliste'rs work along with HHO as well as Hypnow and GEET mixed all on dumbed down platforms but mixed. Good results on mileage could be had without perfecting any of them. We don't need to eliminate fossil fuel completely as the first step. 10% across the board would be cool, more if we can get it, and the faster the better. Clay

[aaaflooddrying]

@juggernautxtr I think you are right. But I think that he was ionizing the hot vapor/ water mist as well and adding a huge high voltage spark. The spark had a hydrogen type affect and also helped break down the ionized water faster adding tremendously to the overall power of the reaction by actually having a liquid fuel in the chamber. Water. He was getting multiple effects out of all types of reactions of water at the same time. Not just HHO. My guess anyway.

[bikr1975]

you do know that you can use an enhancer in the winter cause the overheating of the engine due to the leaning of fuel to air ratio is counteracted by the freezing winter air passing through the radiator? use it for highway speeds though. make it a switch on and off. on for highway, off for city. my 94 ford explorer runs slightly warmer but im saving on gas. around the area of 4 -6 mpg more.

[HybridWaterMan2]

@noimw - wrong- it DOES work and we have a lot of repeat customers to prove it as well as our own vehicles. Some cars respond better than others because of the programming of the ecu, but a good generator and a good system can get good results. We have been doing it since 2007 and our hybrid cells that we introduced in 2008 have been selling so well we can barely keep them in stock. Oh, and by the way NO valve job has been needed for any of our customers or my own vehicles.

[HybridWaterMan2]

@gsxrhubb That's for running a car with pure H2- compressed and injected. Way different than this form of hydrogen-oxygen that is injected at 135 degrees and is 34% oxygen. It is enough to enhance combustion but not enough to have to advance timing unless you are introducing very large quantities in relation to size of motor...

[knineu02]

Waste of time!

[juggernautxtr]

stan meyer did not run his car on HHO alone he was injecting water into the cylinder.

HHO was used to heat the water to steam. the steam if it got hot enough would also seperate into hydrogen and oxygen parts would also ignite and there you have it morons.

[juggernautxtr]

@ObjectiveRealist

then get hit with an intake leak that the map recognizes and watch it add fuel cause of the intake leak.

it's called the map sensor. and it knows the barometric pressure of the intake and outside of the engine air pressure..