Derren Brown on 'Intelligent' Design

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[ChipArgyle]

Magicians make great theological skeptics because so much of their lives are centered on BS and leading people into believing things that aren't true. They see the same types of deception in religious leaders.

[Funbobby92]

I knew asoon as i saw the length of the first two comments that i wasnt traveling any further..

[murraybeans123456]

@Mogley52 it did look at RNA

[hjenkinz]

@kiemul136 thank goodness someone refuted that moron already. There are certainly a finite number of combinations, but equally there are a finite number of particles in the universe.

[jorgepeterbarton]

there are many situations as humans where we can design by adapting conditions, not directly designing the whole object as such, but making a situation, and then leaving it to grow and knowing the outcome is a designed thing.

[jorgepeterbarton]

that we can know where every particle will be or has been' i think its a lack of imagination and good theology and insulting to the christian god, to suggest that he does not have the power to design a universe in this way. of course we think 'god plays dice' at the moment, but of course theologians can take this as a system humans may never grasp, a fair amount of scientists believe there is a limit to what we can understand.

[jorgepeterbarton]

the anti-evolutionist: surely its kind of an insult to your god, to suggest he can only build and design things like we do.

he'god for fuck's sake, he designed the system, the laws of nature, by creating the laws of nature, he might know from that what will take place that through a predetermined system of evolution he indirectly desgined the beings we know.

there is a phrase 'if we were to know the exact position of all the atoms in the universe, and the laws that they abide by,....

[TomARowly]

@Mogley52

Why can't genetic information happen by chance?

[kiemul136]

@Mogley52 This is how a new gene can be formed:

When a cell replicates it can undergo a type of mutation known as a 'gene duplication'. Once a duplicate copy of a gene gets produced this way, then any other kind of mutation (a substutition, inversion, frameshift error, etc.) can alter one of the two copies, and alter the resulting protein. The result is a *new gene*.

Maybe you should do some research before you start making false claims...

[MickeyMcGoo]

What I'd like to know is where the disconnect between design by humans and evolution comes from.... Surely any design by humans is design in nature. even if it has taken millions of years for it to come out