Dune - House Harkonnen - The Baron's Plan

By the time the traitor is fully revealed, the fate of Atreides will already be sealed.

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[Mider999]

I like this version of the baron but the other version in the older film is alot more scary he's rather .................fcked up

[HiddenAdept]

@Mider999 This one is more accurate to the novel.

[Mider999]

@HiddenAdept I wonder if it was the baron who came up with the plan to defeat the Atredies or was it Shaddam the fourth? Or just the Mentat

Ive read somewere that it was House Harkonnen and House Atredies that had military power great enough to actually threaten the emperor and thus both houses could one day ascent to the thrown. Of course the Baron never thought he would be emperor but he did hope a Harkonnen would

[HiddenAdept]

@Mider999 Actually the Baron says at one point in the movie "Never get more popular than the boss, unless you intend to sack him...oh how impolitic of me." So the Baron did plan to depose of the Emperor once his vanguard Leto was out of the way he was probably devising a plan to take over the empire and the Emperor though the exact vice versa in terms of getting rid of the Baron after using him to do his dirty work.

[iluvgoldfrapp]

there really needs to be a version of dune every 10 years or so

[Aiurin]

I'd love to see a Doctor Who/Dune crossover!

[TovKafur]

@AxelXGabriel Imho final battle scene much better in Lynch film, it more... realistic, without something like kung-fu from Miniseries. But all Harkonnens in film really far from Harkonnens from book, so partially I agree with you.

[AxelXGabriel]

@TovKafur Feyd is so much better in the Miniseries. Me thinks you're jsut attracted to Sting in a speedo :p

[Eldritchfan]

@DarthNaver1 Sorry, it doesn't fit. In the context of the movie, the baron is happy that the duke is suspicious at that moment, which goes against his plan. And if the duke's household is turning on one another that implies there's time before the traitor strikes.

[DarthNaver1]

@DarthNaver1 I should say after Leto's confidence has made him vulnerable, and the Harkonnen's have attacked. The attack generates sudden fear without preparation, hence the mistrust, and lack of coordination.

[DarthNaver1]

@Eldritchfan No he is not being inconsistent, he says that "at the moment of his [Leto's] greatest confidence, the traitor strikes." Then "alone and vulnerable on the edge of the universe, Duke Leto will finally come face to face with fear." The fear the Baron is talking about comes "finally" that is after Leto's confidence has made him vulnerable. That is when they all "turn on one another like rats in a flood," which is exactly what happens.

[TheAccidentalMonk]

I prefer the Baron from the film. The level of pathos that can be felt in the film when the Baron is on screen, isn't palpable here.

[TovKafur]

Baron from miniseries.

Feyd-Rautha from Lynch film.

Paul from miniseries.

Piter from Lynch film.

Thumbs up if you want to see film with this actors.

[SuperHeroMania]

This is MUCH closer to the book, but Kenneth McMillan is a better actor and he offers a more interesting take on Baron despite not being anything like the book.

[locustsymphony]

As I understand it, this version of the Baron is closer to that of the novels, where he's a scheming mastermind politician-- but David Lynch's version is a lot more fun to watch. :)