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Where is the River Laman?

The Book of Mormon suggests that a three days' journey from Jerusalem, one found a continuously flowing river, flowing into the Red Sea. Despite several attempts to promote evidence of this river,...  
 
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underpantssquirrel (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Why name a river when you don't expect other people to call it the same thing? Especially when you are going to another continent?
Troul478 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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How do you convince the people in the region that the name you have given to the valley and the river is the best and how do you make them adopt your names until 2600 years later?
underpantssquirrel (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Why name a river once you are going to abandon it permanently in a short while? If you're going to use it as a reference point, why only describe the area with vague geological details?

With the videos that you referred to, why do apologists reference vague geological formations that could refer to any place? That's the only thing they have to work with.

Peer reviewed historical documents all claim that there haven't been any permanent rivers, in that region, since the Pleistocene.

Sorry.
Troul478 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Lehi named the river and the valley after his two sons in order to teach them something, see 1 Nephi 2:6-11. That's kind of a parable.

The Book of Mormon is no geology book. It is no scientific book in any way, but a thelogical one. If you write something in your diary about a hiking tour you made you will not mention all the rocks and trees on the way.
underpantssquirrel (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Why would he name a river just to say how stiffnecked they were?

No I don't make a mention of everything, but I especially wouldn't mention things that didn't exist in my time. Would George Washington write about him driving to Valley Forge in his '69 Camaro? Obviously, there is no such way he could have done it.

Also, why does the BoM "try" to use Elizabethan dialect and fail miserably 50% of the time? Why does it even use the word "has" There was no "has" in Elizabethan; it was "hath."
Troul478 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Our apologists just react to critics who claim that there is absolutly NO evidence that the Book of Mormon plays in a real setting. That's false.

If there is not permanent river on the coast of the Gulf of Aqaba then why did our people find one? And just ONE.
underpantssquirrel (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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They probably found one, and just one, because they were looking for one. If it flows into the Gulf of Aquaba (Which I even checked google maps, there isn't.) then it doesn't flow into the Red Sea. At least, not directly..

I'm guessing they only found Rivers in the area, and they were East of the Red Sea.

I don't know what these people from the "Nephi Project" are doing, but the coordinates they gave didn't bring up anything. I don't know if they're lying or just made a simple mistake.
Troul478 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Just google "A new candidate in Arabia for the River of Lemuel"

You will find all the relevant information there.
Troul478 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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It must be "Valley of Lemuel", of course.
spotsbunch (1 month ago) Show Hide
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To ask where a named river is is a reasonable question. If he was lying (as you imply by saying he was bribed) there'd be LDS material EVERYWHERE showing the River Laman - but there isn't. Even if there were some rivers whose names were disputed there could be a case for this river existing - but there isn't.

It's true that some Biblical places are lost to us (such as a rock in the desert [what a desperate argument). EVERY city, place and artifact in the BoM is missing. The BoM is sinking sand.

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