Jagh - Jàneter

A song in proto-indo-european and english ;)

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[jaeghon]

(1 of 18)

Hello,

I have simplified a bit the PIE I have reconstructed adapting it to latin alphabet (plus some greek and germanic characters) and also trying to fit metrics: since I am a linguist and a musician this was relatively spontaneous. The bases of my comparative theory differ a lot from the official ones we studied so far because it is the result of a new research I am compiling since many years.

[jaeghon]

(2 of 18)

AELBHIS EAHV GAELIS for example is from what is more or less officially-traditionally reconstructed as ALBHO- meaning bright-white-luminescent-fluor­escent hence latin ALBUS, white, and english albino, album, alb etc. and from the same stem in Germanic ALBIZ or ALBAZ meaning ghostly luminescent white hence ælfr in Norse meaning elf, or the name Alberich = rich in-of ghostly luminescent white,

[jaeghon]

(3 of 18)

EAHV means "horse" from the apparently disturbed tradition of PIE EQU- (equus, hyppos etc.) sometimes explained with laryngeals, GAELIS genitive of GAEL hence germanic KALIZ (coldness) and KALDAZ (cold), old english ceald, cool, latin gel-are, gel-um, gelid-us, zero grade g(-)lacius etc.

[jaeghon]

(4 of 18)

SCEABH TIS AHVIS means "drop of the liquid" AHVIS is the genitive of AHV meaning liquid hence AQUA, avon (celtic loan) and many results among indoeuropean languages, August Schleicher's AVIS meant bird, from hypothetical PIE stem awi- it was probably AVEIS nominative, aviary, avian, aviculture from latin avis (bird).

[jaeghon]

(5 of 18)

It is obviously a matter that cannot be discussed in a couple of lines but I'll try to explain in a few words my point of view: I have reconstructed PIE not as a common mother language, but as a language spoken by a culture disappeared around 10th millennium BC, this idiom would have had a large and crucial influence on many languages all over the world: probably-apparently a cultural hegemony rather than a political one.

[jaeghon]

(6 of 18)

Once I had received the classic official formation supposed to qualify me to analyze languages I ran into the academic popular doubts on the whole "indoeuropean" theory: the Kurgans and laryngeals along with all the rest "were" highly speculative, incoherent and-or disconnected to archaeology, so like all of us who came to that "theoretical ambiguous point" I had to try to find a new path to examine the problem searching and exploring a completely different approach.

[sourmelee]

@jaeghon I really am interested in seeing your work published, perhaps even a translation of the song lyrics! Send me a message sometime, it'd be awesome to discuss language reconstruction(and perhaps even conlanging) with someone that's actually done quite a lot in that department.

[vaguelyhumanoid]

Just because you disagree with a theory, it doesn't mean the entire "official" reconstruction is wrong. I'm pretty sure there were no dental fricatives, for instance. Seems more like a late Centum dialect then PIE.

[SuperSangfroid]

Your work is good but definitely not Proto-IndoEuropean.

Your language bears little resemblance to Latin and Greek , forget Sanskrit, to be called Proto-IndoEuropean.

Did u mean to say Proto-Germanic?

[eslubin]

very creative

[0m12]

Anyway, I've been listening to this song a while, and though I liked the tune I was unsure of the meaning of the PIE or indeed how serious a reconstruction it is, but now I find song more enjoyable. Like listening to ancient, long-lost echoes of a heritage so many of us (though, technically, not myself) share.

I'd be very interested to read your work once you do get round to it; I've yet to read any serious publications/theses about this area, and this sounds like a good place to start as any!

[0m12]

Wow, amazing read! I have a (very amateur) interest in linguistics, especially the comparative stuff which I've read about where I can, and I have to say, these 18 posts were very enlightening! As ever, it seems it's not as simple as it may first sound, one massive, identical proto-civilisation, which is what the PIE theory seems at first to suggest.