Big Mountain Sundance Los Angeles 1984

Honoring the Sundance where dancers dance for 4 days with no food or water. on the beach in Santa Monica, California 1984 and Los Angeles Big Mountain Support Group.
Floyd Red Crow Westerman said to the group. " I will dance for the Sundancers to honor them and their sacrifice and for all living things."

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[Down564]

Yea things like the ceremonies cant be recoreded but without these recored sessions then all would be lost if its not meant to be recored then all of this wouldnt be here there are reasons this has been recored And i believe in that it has a reason why its recorded.

[ojaitimo]

Floyd knew my father in law Clyde McCown, Clydle was from the Mattaponi. He produced the American Indian Hour inn Pasadena.

Big Mountain Support Group got my number, called and asked me to record this that day. At the beginning Floyd asked me not to record a portion that shouldn't be photographed or recorded. I was there that day to record it and to share it here.

One thousand years from now, this may be one of the only recordings.

[chailese]

floyd was a great man and family friend, but this should have never been put on this or even recorded! this is a sacred ceremony and you can get very sick as rezevil stated! Respect our culture and please understand the meaning of these ceremonies

[ojaitimo]

Chailese, Floyd was indeed a great man. He asked me to record this which I did.

He also asked me not to record a portion of this event that he felt shouldn't be recorded. Out of respect for him and to honor all living things, this video is posted here.

[ojaitimo]

"There is an ancient Indian saying that something lives only as long as the last person who remembers it. My people have come to trust memory over history. Memory, like fire, is radiant and immutable while history serves only those who seek to control it, those who douse the flame of memory in order to put out the dangerous fire of truth.

Floyd Red Crow Westerman

[whitmaceo]

no camera's allowed. somebody must have got paid. sellouts!

[ojaitimo]

The Big Mountain Support Group had asked me to record the ceremony that day. There are several minutes missing where Floyd Westerman asked me not to record and anyone to photograph because of the sacred rules you speak of. Smoke was used to purify the group and I was then asked to start recording.

[UmaOya]

Making up a Mass? How can you miss, that Big Mountain Coalition sponsored a prayer on the beach..and they brought people together..in support of Big Mountain and the Sun Dance over there in Az. Selo sang Sun Dance songs all the time..he lived his Way of Life. His Sun Dance ran from 1970-2003. Floyd was his good friend.. he just didn't know the song Selo sang. People praying together in gatherings happens all the time, on and off reservation..Your issue is with it being recorded and posted

[tradishsunfish]

hahahahahaa... thats shits funny. did the hot sand sundance.

[Poggle]

I think the important thing to remember is these men danced for 4 days without food or drink. This is VERY holy.

[ndntoeknee]

im gonna have to dislike.....have a lot of respect for whats going on, but for the recording im going to have to dislike....

[ndntoeknee]

@ojaitimo its up to us to pass on OUR teachings....not by recordings!!! these ways are not to be recorded for entertainment...if one wants to learn, they should come to our ceremonies..videos like this make people turn into wannabe medicine men...they learn from videos..and end up hurtn the oyates..

[davidwhitecloud]

me blow flute best in Lakota tribe. me make em cd. you buy pay cash,credit card. no check,no trade for beads. whiteman take hunting grounds. store say no beads,cash only. me have 3 squaws many braves. need cash...you buy em cd me buy em firewater. we all happy. thank you....Cloud,ugh.

[TheShoshonestar]

Actually, at the time as this ceremony was going on the U.S, Government was forcibly relocating over 10,000 Traditional Dine' from their ancestral homeland in Northern Arizona, a Sun Dance was going on at the same time, we had just finished a four day yuwipi, we could not be there at the Sun Dance, so we took the prayer to the beach as directed by the dancers at Big Mtn. Ramaonoun you must know what is going on before you critic, there were about 20 of us but the circle grew before we knew it!

[deneheat101]

I have been a Spiritualist for 5 yrs now and it has really changed my life and yes it is really sacred and i agree that some portions of the Sundance should't be recorded and im from Yellowknife,Northwest Territories,Canada,and i committed myself to the Creator of the earth and God and Jesus to aswell,and oneday i would like to dance again and hopefully in America :D

[blackfootboy]

@shannieshits Aho

[blackfootboy]

@Romanorum I believe it is Lakota and California tribes combined. But, I feel you.

[blackfootboy]

Floyd, he was a good man and actor. He was always staying true to the Native people and every other living being on this earth. He kept the traditions alive and this ceremony is sacred to my people the Blackfeet also. Every year we have a sundance around Glacier National Park. That's where I recieved my Indian name:RunningWolf. Great job Floyd, rest in peace brother. You will not be forgotten.