Nietzche's "Zarathustra" - 1

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[pietzsche]

there's some huge mis-interpretations of Nietzsche in here, but the idea that natural selection isn't operating on humans is ridiculous, and that our genes can be "degraded" not only ridiculous, but dangerous, Lebensunwertes Leben &c. You shouldn't try to teach this stuff when it's so obvious you don't understand it.

[MrCropper]

@pietzsche "the idea that natural selection isn't operating on humans is ridiculous"

Would you admit that it is operating at a slowed rate due to technology?

[pietzsche]

@MrCropper No, in fact I'd say thinking that just shows further confusion. You're reifying natural selection, it's just a concept. Some things are fit and breed some things are not and don't. What's happened is our fitness has increased. This may seem like semantics, but it shows an excess of fitness, not any form of weakness. Your version suggests humanity can become fitter by killing off our own, and not killing off our predators (virii &c.). It's a fundamental misconception.

[MrCropper]

@pietzsche MCrop: "Would you admit that it is operating at a slowed rate due to technology?"

ptz: "No, in fact I'd say thinking that just shows further confusion. You're reifying natural selection, it's just a concept."

I posit, sir, that you know neither nautral selection philosophy as a whole. You are very confused.

[biggsy182]

What a travesty. What he means is that he is not poor enough in spirit to view "wealth" as any sort of "good" or "gift" whatsoever. Wisdom IS of value. I shall not be watching anymore of this series, to cite the lively, creative, and purely HUMAN wisdom of Nietzsche as "wrong" because they contradict the insipid, nihilistic and ultimately feeble words of Rand is laughable. It almost seems as if your devotion to reason (indifference) has sucked the life right out of you.

[jcliveron]

Zaratustra is a deep reading maybe the deepest book ever written for the lovers of this world ;)

[Vpopov81]

Is over man has nothing to do with physical genetic evolution! It has nothing to do with how domesticated we are

[VanessaTexasGal]

@jkev76 How is philosophy any less important than higher mathematics? And how do you have higher mathematics without logic(which is a branch of philosophy). Solving fundamental problems requires philosophy. You need philosophy to have the scientific method in the first place, which is the basis for scientific theories. You even need philosophy to make a good argument.

[pietzsche]

@MrCropper I'll admit that's an easy way to dodge the point, but it's also a plea to authority (which is doubly redundant since I'm challenging your authority in the first place), and an ad-hominem. However much philosophy I know, I know that this is a cop out, since you've changed topic rather than answering the point.

Let's make it empirical: How do you measure the standard rate natural selection operates on humanity at? (not average, median, &c., standard)

I say there's no such thing. (cont)

[ItsAroundMidnight]

this is awful. end now. you are not deserving. thank you.

[Eminor31415]

his not going to go down the monten he is like the sun going to... ffs

[Eminor31415]

nooooooo it's the sea and not a lake... fore all nietzsche spoke of his stomick