The Trivium Method - Gene Odening (entire) - what you should have been taught in school but weren't

This is the story of the 3 successive stages of the "Philosophic Life" which almost all of us live. Some of us live it consciously, others, not so much.
Gene's story is one of good fortune. Early in adolescence he was given the tools to recognize and to pursue the Philosophic Life, which he undertook to do, not as a vocation but as a serious hobbyist. This is part of what the talk is about, defining those tools and following time-tested ways of applying them.
Gene lived through the first part, the Stage of Preparing For Life, in a fashion which the ancient Vedic Sages called: "Learning by grazing through the fields of the Brahma (the Creator God), in sobriety, and with a guru". He even had his own guru! He graduated from this stage in a less than sober state. At age 18 . . . He ingested the Eucharist in fact, rather than only in effigy, and had his Crown Chakra opened.
When he was 20 years old, he began the second part, the Stage of Receiving From Life. This is when he began his vocational career and started his family life. Life was good. He and his wife traveled many parts of the English speaking world scouring the libraries in particular; she reading her beloved fiction; he in the reference and antiquarian sections. His quest was to find out what Money was. Money is a very elusive thing. As ghostly as it is, it takes up much of our life's time and energy. By happenstance, in pursuit of its secrets, almost all other known topics come into view for a closer examination, including Philosophy, a treasure beyond measure.
As he reached the age of about 56, he had the realization that he was now in the final stage, the Stage of Giving Back To Life. This is when one should properly become the elder advisor, not 'offering' advise, but giving of it freely when asked. It is also the time of beginning one's journey through mentality. This is the time of: "Examining a life which has been worth living", as the Greek sage Socrates counseled.

For more information on the trivium and quadrivium, as well as books, and other study information, see: http://www.triviumeducation.com

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[HectorLex]

Hey, I'm reading The Trivium by Sister Mariam Joseph as Gene recommended. In her treatment of general grammar she introduces Aristotle's Categories of Being, and a taxonomy of general grammar (categorematic vs. syncategorematic). I am a bit lost as to how these details are going to be helpful in making a material living in the future. Do you thing this may be going into too much detail? Do you have any recommendations about how much detail to go into in learning the trivium? Thanks.

[GnosticMedia]

@HectorLex The idea is to learn how to break down sentence structure into its various parts so that you can see when statements are true or false. How can you make a proper decision if you're unable to break down the information you're getting? If you can't break down the information, how could it help you make any good decisions, business or otherwise? And I think you're confusing getting rich and learning how to use your brain. If you only have that agenda, maybe this isn't for you.

[GnosticMedia]

@fuhoney That's significantly too bad for you.

[GnosticMedia]

@TheCoolottie It's not about having or not having emotions. It's being able to recognize them and not be controlled by them. Most people today think by their emotions rather than reason, and basing decisions on what feels good, or what have you in a particular moment is very dangerous indeed.

[DominoGray]

Angle and angel have no relationship in language. The video is filled with nonsense like this when they seem to think if something sounds good, it must be true. It seems odd to make shit up in a video instructing us towards methodical and purposeful thinking.

But really, and this is key, Gene needs to learn how to get to a point and keep direction/relevance--painful. Just tell people to read up on Aristotle/Ayers/Autism and save us this rote gibbldygoop

[xxxBlackSnowxx]

i thought this was the band

[KnowThySelf9]

i have listened to this video about 8 times already, i learn something new every listen and as i continue studying it becomes clearer what is meant by the trivium method.

[drumknuckle]

I noticed this video jumped in 2,000 views over the past couple of days. Hopefully its partially due to how many people i've been forwarding it to :o)

[hunkydoryorder]

Thanks @HmND.

Sweet pointer.

[HmND]

Either way, great presentation of the basics. Will listen to the Quadrivium podcast soon.

I'll recommend a book which I'm reading now, it's called "How To Win Every Argument: The Use and Abuse of Logic" by Madsen Pirie and it goes in depth of every logical fallacy.

[HmND]

At minute 14 I am supposed to believe his claim that Angel and Angle come from the same root, by design? One is from Greek angelos (messenger), the other is from Latin angulus (a corner). Unless I'm missing something, it's kind of funny to make an introduction to the Trivium with what seems to be a made-up claim, which in turn makes it more tedious to believe the rest of the podcast without the feeling that the speaker doesn't really know what he's talking about. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Drahcir9truthurts]

I thought the word zeitgeist referred to mass-public-opinion but you all seem to think it means something else ( an organisation ?!?)

I get the impression that alot of this material was being read ? it just sounded as though gene had not properly understood or digested some of his subject matter.

very interesting anyways thank you.

[infinitesimotel]

If knowledge is the fruit, then wisdom is the wine.

[Katharsis540]

@GnosticMedia Hmmmm yeah this makes more sense now and yes have seen all 3 documentaries,but wouldn't hold the first one as a source for solution thinking on top the first film went down just as a project for the maker.Now the other 2 yeah the show a more solution think after hearing Trivium and Quadrivium method do recall Gene saying it does resemble The Scientific Method and do know that an Resource Based Economy uses that to improve the planet,but using Scientific Method=appeal to authority?