Midnight Mass 2008 at St. John the Divine NYC (C)

Go in peace to love and serve the Lord. We were sent out to the hymn Joy to the World. Again, sorry about the grainy video. The organ sounded great.

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[kpman]

Is this A catholc Church?

[njn3]

No, this is the Cathedral for the Episcopal Diocese of New York. Thanks for your interest kpman.

[Aishiya1]

@kraftpr But there are some charismatic Episcopal churches. One of them is Saint Bartholomew's here in Nashville. I have been told--I won't go; I'm too High Church for that.

[oyapeg]

It's a common misconception that the Church of England is more like the RCC. In fact, the range of worship styles in much greater in the Church of England than in any other branch of the Anglican Communion. There are churches in which the priests wear business suits. There are churches in which the Latin mass is still said. By English law, once a priest has been given a church as his "living," he cannot be removed. He could stand on his head throughout the service if he so pleased.

[codeman2008]

@njn3 Indeed, indeed, quite right you are. The Episcopal Church in America is very different from the RCC in many ways, however, the Anglican Church *in England* is much more conservative and closer to the the RCC. Likewise there are many 'Anglo-Catholics' in America who maintain Catholic beliefs that 99% of Episcopalians do not. I speak for some, not for all.

[njn3]

@codeman2008 we definitely agree that the split was not over theological issues. but as the 2 churches progressed, there were differences that formed. They seem to be how the 2 are told apart. All i can remember is my Dad boasting of the "Apostolic Succesion". I havent been to Europe so I would be interested to see how the masses in the Anglican Communion outside the US differ from the Catholic Church, because, like we both agree, here in the US, its almost identical. Lutherans are close too.

[codeman2008]

@njn3 Hi. Most Anglicans aren't in communion with the true Catholic church but that doesn't mean we're not *English* Catholic. The Mass is actually much different than many of us like to think, in America it's similar but elsewhere it varies very greatly. I should add, there ARE Anglicans who are in full communion with the Roman (true) Catholic Church and still maintain their Anglicanism. I am not one of them, but the point is, we did NOT break from Rome over *theological* issues.

[njn3]

@codeman2008 We do embrace our Catholic ancestry... By no means am I an expert. But from everything I have been taught, we are not Catholic. Obviously, the Mass is very similar, almost identical. But there was a split years ago and we not under the governance of the Pope. It is true, we are not like the other Christian sects. But we are Episcopalian, Catholic lite as we joke.. There are many similarities between the 2 but enough differences as well... Enough that we should differentiate.

[kraftpr]

@codeman2008 Thanks for the very thoughtful reply. I appreciate your viewpoint. In my neighborhood we have a very high Anglican church -- full vestments, incense and even, occasionally, a Latin Mass! Often I prefer to attend their Masses than the ubiquitous guitar hootenannies served up at some R.C. churches! Again, my opinion :-)

[codeman2008]

@kraftpr For some Anglicans it would make sense to join full communion with the Catholic church, but like I said, most American Episcopalians don't recognize their Catholic heritage. For those that do want to 'rejoin' the Catholic church, good for them, for those who don't, just as well. Anglicans are much too diverse to get a general consensus on ANYTHING, some say it's the biggest fault of the Anglican Communion, others say it's a strong point.

[kraftpr]

@codeman2008 I would be very interested to know your thoughts on Pope Benedict's invitation to Anglicans to join the R.C. Church and yet keep all their "traditions"?

[kraftpr]

@FU6969 I would be very interested to know your thoughts on Pope Benedict's invitation to Anglicans to join the R.C. Church and yet keep all their "traditions"?