Re: Homeschooling?

Response to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MgTfQrZc6Y

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• homeschool
• homeschooling
• unschooling
• psychology
• social interaction
• human programming

[DaveDoggOwns]

Why are you impying that a child relationship to his/her parents is not like a prison? Both public schooling and homeschooling are prisons. The only difference is who is guarding your cell.

[XOmniverse]

I don't think its necessarily a prison at home for a child. Depends on whether the parents are any good.

[Rose0883]

The support and love of parents IS experience of strength and actual self-worth- of course when a person experiences a jerk irl, it will be new practice ground, but it's bullshit to say that it's 'survival of the fittest'- it's only survival of the fittest when uninterested parents throw their kids into horrible state run institutions where things run like a power hierarchy. That's not real life, thats a hell you are taught to believe you need to 'put up with' instead of finding alternatives.

[Rose0883]

I truly believe the best way to help a child learn to ward off mockeries is to show him that he is a respectable, valuable human being well deserving of proper respect- his own self respect will lead him to defend himself to the death. That, along with your words of advice, would be plenty enough preparation for the real world. But I don't think there is such a thing as public school 'under regulard circumstances'- just b/c your kid doesn't get beat, it doesn't make the place ok to put him in.

[EnochEmery251]

It's very unpopular to be against school. It happens very often where somebody will become agitated when you imply school isn't necessary or desirable. High schoolers are what I'm thinking of right now, as I'm in high school. It saddens me that so many are virulent defenders of school. I just had a particularly bad day at school, and my local friends are no help in that area.

[ninjafretshadow]

you prison mataphor.this happens at labor jobs.''prison lifestyle''.honor among theives[if your in that group.no snitching.sneaking from the man.higharchy.who raises kids in public schools.where does entertainment trends come from.[thug life]baggy pants.were did this come from.ahh i should make my own vid.

[DaLeftLibertarian]

I sort of agree with you on your views on public schools, but remember that prisons doesn't represent the average person since most of the persons there got some moral issues and are more violent than the average indiviudal.

[UnhealthySalad]

While I feel somewhat as you do, I wouldn't say that people are DEformed in public school. I don't believe in the dichotomy of "natural" and "unnatural" social development. If I did, then I'd side with those who say that the home schooled are the ones that are deformed, as public schooled outnumber all others. But as I said, I don't think that way. Public schooling is just as "perverse" as any other way, i.e. it's not. But I don't agree with it, I didn't like it when I was there etc. etc.

[givebirthathome]

A bit of further information-- even though schools do make most of their inmates crazy, my experience of several homeschooled children is that when they went to school, they tended to be quite popular. They're not wet behind the ears about social interaction! But particularly if "unschooled", these kids tend to be quite confident, and fun to be around and people find that attractive.

[IndividualAutonomy]

excellent

[FatGermanBastard]

But blacks and whites were both told this. If two groups are subject to the same indoctrination and one group is treated as valuable and good while the other group is not treated as valuable then by your logic you would expect those that are treated as valuable to recognize their incorrect indoctrination first. But the opposite happened. The blacks - despite being subject to the same indoctrination - recognized it first.

I'm interested in your ideas. Just not adapting them unless I agree.

[Rose0883]

With all intents and purposes of explaining the school environment, kids are essentially taught to be 'racist-like' against those who don't fit in, those who are weak, etc., and that kind of thing is what is responsible for power hierarchies.

I think this will be my last comment. You are fighting against me and we aren't getting anywhere. I want to have conversations w/ppl where they are interested in hearing my ideas instead of combatting them, otherwise there's no point.

[FatGermanBastard]

Yes and blacks were taugth whites are valuable and blacks are not too plus they were treated badly.

So by your line of reasoning you'd rather expect whites to see the incorrect indoctrination, wouldn't you ?

I mean both blacks and white were not raised with good values. Both were raised in a racist environment. Though whites treated good and blacks bad so you'd expect whites to see that the values they are raised with are bad first, not the blacks, wouldn't you ?

[Rose0883]

Right, whites were taught they were valuable, and taught that blacks were *not*- thus my point stands. If whites were taught to treat ppl with equal respect, which would be considered a good environment with good values, then they would recognize the hypocrisy and abuse. The point is that they were *not* raised with good values, they were raised in a racist environment.