Kata TOMARI PASSAI (Old style) - Okinawa Shorinjiryu

Demonstration of the kata TOMARI PASSAI (Okinawa Shorinji-ryu), in front of the late Nakazato Joen sensei at the Okinawa World Karatedo Tournament 2009, Budokan, Okinawa. Visit http://www.karatebyjesse.com for more info, videos and the blog!

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[GreedyButler]

Hi Jesse,

Long time listener, first time commenter.

The Tomari no Passai kata above is *very* similar to Chito-ryu Bassai, yet Chito-ryu Bassai is reported to originate from Shuri-te. All of the other Tumari Passai videos I see on youtube more closely resemble Matsumura no Passai, and this is the only one I can find that is so close to the version I am learning in Chito-ryu. What is with the "Old Style" comment in the title of the video?

[KARATEbyJesse]

@GreedyButler It basically means it's more close to the original than 99.9% of the stuff out there. Of course, debate exists whether Nakazato Joen sensei changed/forgot movements etc, but he DID learn this form directly from Kyan Chotoku, the "resurrector" of Tomari-te... ;)

[Goju1990]

Hi Jesse !

I have a question. Have u some videos of Shorei Ryu Katas ? It would be so interesting to see Katas of Shorei Ryu

[KARATEbyJesse]

@Goju1990 Shorei-ryu is generally considered Naha-te (Goju-ryu, Toon-ryu etc), of which there is plenty to find on Youtube! ;) I don't have that much.

[okinawashorinjiryu]

@uminchu7th Yeah, I asked Sensei about McCarthy... He said he never heard about him ever before... Sensei didn't care about the foreign visitors to his dojo and just cared about his close students...

[uminchu7th]

@okinawashorinryu: Sensei was getting devious in his old age. I knew a longtime student of Soken sensei also who said Soken sensei acted the same way.. when he got older, everyone was coming to his house at any hour, so he kept his redbelt and gi ready to take a photo to get them away from him. I actually think Pat McCarty started bullshitting people with photos first back in the '80s.

[okinawashorinjiryu]

@uminchu7th He begun his karate practise in the late 1990s... Joshinmon as I recall... I met Ikeda Hoshu and his daughter once.. They didn't like this guy.. I think he was cut off by the help of a guy that lives in Tokyo...Now he just try to bother people by his rude behaviour...

[okinawashorinjiryu]

@uminchu7th Yeah, I remember... The guy sent a photo of his group to our dojo with our patch, even though he knew he wasn't allowed. I had a good laugh... They hold a sign "Great Britain" but we didn't have a dojo there, and Joen-sensei asked me "Who's this guy?" and I told him... And Sensei never mentioned him ever again..

I think he was called himself "Harry Davis".. A guy who runned a piracy radio years ago... With anti-US propaganda and ended up on the Feds list..

[uminchu7th]

@okinawashorinryu, there was the perkins group that came and kept taking photo's and interviewing and that french guy from shotokan, but I'm not sure who the guy was who was from England or where ever who sent that photo sensei was confused over, with the shorinji ryu patch on the karate uniforms.. do you remember it?

[hughradcaux]

@uminchu7th "I'd have a very hard time believing 20 yr old students of Kyan sensei would have changed the Passai, Chinto and Kusanku of someone as respected as Kyan sensei".Exactly, especially by one who told me he was "shocked" when he saw personal variations (ie even vertical fist of Tatsuo and 3/4 fist of Zenryo) transmitted post war. JN said this was specifically against what Kyan had said about kata should be transmitted neutrally (ie never with shosho or gyosho personal variations)