2011-02-11 - Walker - Student Union Protest - UW Madison

Students and TA's protest Scott Walker's attempt to bust up unions on Saturday.

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[WingThaiJ]

@stevenhoog1 agreed

[WingThaiJ]

Part II Blobber Mickey Kaus: That's why Big Labor and Democrats used the exact same tactics in Indiana -- fleeing the state to shut down the legislature -- even though the proposed bill was simply a Right to Work law that would have guaranteed that no Hoosier (with an unseemly exception for construction workers) could be required to join or pay dues to a union as a condition of employment.

[WingThaiJ]

Part III But by the end of the week, Governor Walker stood strong, unlike Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels, who gave in to the union bosses' demands to pull the Right to Work bill.

Now Big Labor is even threatening "recall" elections against Wisconsin Republicans.

After all, that's exactly why the government-sector union operatives want forced dues powers -- they want to elect their own bosses.

[WingThaiJ]

Info I obatined: As lib blogger Mickey Kaus explained, union bosses & their fleeing allies in State Senate -- would never accept bill prohibiting gov unions from seizing union dues straight from wrkers' paychecks.Elimination of mandatory dues checkoff," Kaus contind, "is what really terrifies unions, because it might dry up the political funds they use to elect candidates." Kaus concludes, "this political spending power is more important to the unions even than collective bargaining power."

[stevenhoog1]

@WingThaiJ It's a PUBLIC JOB. Who do they want to competively bargain WITH??? The tax -payer> The tax-payer pays his salary and he want to negotiate to get MORE money and benefits from the people who pay his salary(and who make LESS)???. The "JOB" pays this amount. Take it or leave it. It's a public job. You don't GET to bargain for MORE from the taxpayer. It's not right for NON-dems to get money TAKEN to give to the dems. And if the Tea Party acted 1/100th of the union crowd they'd be CRUCIFIED

[WingThaiJ]

... because unions get politicians elected thereby they actually sit on both sides of the negotiating table. Those politicians have to pay back their supporters by agreeing to their compensation demands. How else do you think they were able to get their Viagra paid for? I listed numerous collective bargaining abuses in older posts. The unions have no leg to stand on & rely upon ignorance of the public and students who haven't worked in the world yet to realize what has been really going on.

[WingThaiJ]

@fearlessfred14 who's cutting education? So many of you fall for the union rhetoric & have no clue what's going on. ANY1 who disagrees w/the union should NOT have to support it, they should not be forced to join unions & pay union dues. FDR was even against public unions for the very reason we see them abusing the system as it is. In past, U join gov to get good pension w/a lower salary, today, they way outpace the private sector, salary, pension, benefits at tax payer expense cause unions get

[WingThaiJ]

@stevenhoog1 It's rather amazing to see how the liberal media was actually SEARCHING out any form of violence, yet when the Unions behave as they do, they treat it like it's a normal reaction. Where is the condemnation for the death threats, etc.? Screaming for other people's money as though they have a right to it. I hope we can get the free market back so all of the public workers will have to compete w/private sector; get paid in accord w/competition thereby forcing improved services

[stevenhoog1]

@WingThaiJ I didn't write that Andrew Biggs crap. I wonder how someone wrote that with my "tag"??? Keep up the good Work. When WE do to them what THEY do they can't take it! The libs on radio say we are trying to GOAD them into extreme actions and portray them as extremists...we are just showing what they already are.

[stevenhoog1]

This is what community organizing is all about! There are consequences of elections and WE WON> Just because you don't get your way you bitch and moan. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND QUIT DAMAGING PROPERTY AND PICK UP YOUR FUCKING GARBAGE BEHIND YOU. LOWLIFES. obama should not escalate this but he is / him and his union cronies. This is a perfect example of what obama does. He is not presidential material, he gets these WHITE TRASH together and makes a mess of democracy and defacing property.

[stevenhoog1]

This is what community organizing is all about! There are consequences of elections and WE WON> Just because you don't get your way you bitch and moan. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND QUIT DAMAGING PROPERTY AND PICK UP YOUR FUCKING GARBAGE BEHIND YOU. LOWLIFES.

[WingThaiJ]

Good benefits were provided to make up for lower salaries in gov. Over last 10 to 12+ yrs, EVERYTHING increased & YES PRIVATE SECTOR com-parables DO NOT earn as much now in the public sector and these people believe they are entitled to this? A bus driver has a right to be able to earn $150K from the tax payers? They deserve to have tax payers pay for their Viagra? Look at the list of abuses of collective bargaining, they're huge. U HAVE NO CASE; U JUST WANT WHAT U WANT LIKE SPOILED BRATS!

[WingThaiJ]

Here is the scenario: Politicians make deals w/Union Leaders. Union leaders raise $, give to politician, gets them elected, Now the politician has to negotiate with the unions about whether the unions people can earn more $. Sound right to you? It's like your if your mother or father giving you few bucks every-time they saw you, once they decide to stop, you protest them and demand your right to that $. It's RIDICULOUS! These people have no right to tax payer $'s. Good benefits were provided

[WingThaiJ]

@stevenhoog1 It’s about trying to protect fiscal sanity & economic prosperity of the nation & states. it is about fairness. Taxpayers in the private sector should not have to pay for benefits & wages that are way beyond what they get in the private sector,” say. Collective bargaining cost tax payers in accord w/my previous posts which is completely out of control. In other words, U better find a way to research beyond your union religious convictions.

[WingThaiJ]

@stevenhoog1 American Enterprise Institute scholar Andrew G. Biggs has written that the actual disparity is much greater, however, because Bureau of Labor Statistics indicate that a public-sector worker only has about a 6% chance of losing their job in any given yr. That contrasts to a private-sector job loss rate of 20 percent per annum. So the cost of finding new employment is much higher for private sector workers, on a per-capita basis.

[WingThaiJ]

@silverlionlb Hawaii ($59,595, or $12,243 more than private sector); Fla ($58,749, which is $9,099 more than private sector; S. Carolina ($52,591, a difference of $7,590); & Michigan ($58,801, a pay gap compared w/the private sector of $6,436).

[WingThaiJ]

@silverlionlb Largest pay gap in 50 states occurs in Nevada, where gov wrkrs earn nearly $18K more a yr than private-sector employees. Biggest increase is in cash-strapped CA, where public-employee compensation soared 28% above rate of inflation from 2000 to 2009.Rhode Island (public workers earn an av of $69,284, which is $17,603 more than private-sector average); Vermont (average salary of $51,503, & $5,811 more than private sector);

[WingThaiJ]

@silverlionlb Public-sector employees in labor-battleground Wisconsin & 40 other states receive much higher total comp than do people wrkg in private sector.“20 yrs ago, in public sector, U may get a little less salary, but we’re going to take care of U on the pension-benefit side very generously, and you’ll get job security,’” Today over last 10 or 12 yrs, they get job security, pay, pension & benefits. They get all 3, and it’s driven their salaries far beyond what private sector gets

[WingThaiJ]

@silverlionlb If you believe this, I've got some swamp land to show you. This is totally bogus and I can tell you didn't read the extensive posts I put up as they are irrefutable. This is the PUBLIC sector, they WERE NEVER suppose to have such collective bargaining, even FDR KNEW THIS IS WRONG! People have a RIGHT to work w/out joining a union should the want to. Unionized public workers in some states earn as much as $18,000 more than their private counterparts (to continue)

[silverlionlb]

@WingThaiJ On average, Wisconsin public workers get paid less than their private sector counterparts--and that's including benefits. We don't need unions because we're greedy, we need them so we can continue to make a living. It's a damn good thing that we have the unions contributing to elections, because then everyone would be screwed with the amount of corporate influence.

[WingThaiJ]

@fearlessfred14 It's conflict of interest to have collective bargaining in public sector. Politicians get contributions from unions who have an advantage w/all of their $ resources; politician in turn feels an obligation to pay-off those who voted them in using other people's $(taxes); which is Y the public sector makes more than private sector. Even FDR was against this! W/collective bargaining, the Unions just have to wait for a Dem to be elected again to what they want & screw the economy.

[hldowns]

I sense a perfect storm is in motion with the exploitation of children to hold picket-signs, to State employees getting paid a full day’s wage walking a Picket line to cowards running over state line on the tax dollar. With the emotions running high, America’s compassion will not be on the side of the Union exploiting a child’s injuries for personal gain.

[fearlessfred14]

@peatea98

After 17 countries with unionized teachers. Busting the unions won't make our education any better, and it certainly won't reward good teachers. I saw too many excellent teachers forced out of the public schools in my "right-to-work" home state (TN) due to pay to think we can afford this. If we want better teachers, we shouldn't start by cutting education. Not in Our Wisconsin!

[Chyaman09]

2:09 Noon O' Clock! Lol Keep fighting buddy! I'm participating too!

[stevenhoog1]

You bunch of GREEDY-ASS PUSSIES. You are paid by the taxpayers of Wisconsin and shouldn't even allowed to be a union. NOT ON MY DIME. I cant' even pay or put aside MY retirement but I HAVE to pay for YOURS! You mooch and leech off others to be paid when you don't work after 55, that's 30years mooching off US for your retirement. And then you lie and take a sick day for this.