Sen. Paul McKinley asks Dems to work together
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You completely missed the point.
I can see that there is no getting through to you. You really do enjoy white noise, don't you?
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You are using a modern definition of marriage that is very recent and is still in living memory from which was changed the original meaning which was put forth at its infancy as a social convention. You actually support my previous point, though you seem not to grasp this fact.
I can see that you are simply not taking what I said before seriously.
Please, educate yourself.^^
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So this guy is seriously comparing allowing gays and lesbians to marry to raising taxes?
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If we cared about children and the bible, we would ban remarriage. It is adulterous.
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What you believe in does not matter and is your personal buisness, churches have the right to refuse marriage to gay people the state however does not unless it wants to scratch the equality idea out of your constitution. Which law explicitly states that gender matters?
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legislation. God, the Church, faith can sanctify your marriage however they want it should not matter under the law. Again, society has defined that everybody is equal under the law then the law needs to reflect that. Therefore the law needs to offer the same rights to gay people as it does to straight people.
And I wish your generation would get their heads out of the bible long enough to see the difference between faith and law. ..
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You were talking about relationships for reproduction and not about material. Material is indeed needed but that's about it. And yes society has the right to define what it is acceptable and it has done so in stating that all man are equal under the law . And if M/F marriages are sanctified by the law so should gay marriages. Your marriage is sanctified by God, but God has no place in the law, because by definition Church and state are to be seperate. Religious believes have no place in
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Behavior is not a right. Society has the right and obligation to decide what behavior is acceptable. T.J. also said that the courts were the weakest of the 3 branches, they serve and are funded by the legislature. He also said that judges making law would be tyranny, just like what we fought to break away from...I wish your generation would put your Ipods down long enough to study historym, and stop emoting made up garbage.
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Check out some of the rulings in the last 10 years where the court itself has said it can not make law, this is a case of a setup case by and activist court, legislating from the bench, invalid, and has no standing if the other two branches has the cajones to assert their constituional authority......look it up...
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The question is a nonsequitor...
As a republican from Des Moines, I would have to say that allowing gay people to marry has NO affect on my family. I am opposed to spending any more time debating this issue.
simo3300 2 years ago 9
Just because a majority would deprive a minority of rights, would enshrine their bigotry, doesn't make it right, and doesn't make it constitutional.
Gronstal is absolutely right to block the minority party from putting this to a vote to amend in Iowa constitution. Civil rights are absolutes, not to be decided by campaigns financed by out-of-state interests, like California's Prop H8.
cairycat 2 years ago 4