Engine 127 Responding With a Close call

Engine 127 responding to the brush fire. The grey car somehow didn;t hear the Q screaming and horns, and almost pulled out in front of them.

Category:

Autos & Vehicles

Tags:

• Bristol-Kendall
• Fire
• Department
• Engine
• 127
• Close
• Call
• Responding
• Siren
• Horns
• KME

[firemanstevemfd]

Remember something!!!! Videos like this will cost someone their job! Think about it before you post videos.

[rykember11]

@firemanstevemfd How could this cost someone their job? They did everything right, they slowed down for the light, even though it doesn't seen like it in the video. The visual and audiable warning devices were being used correctly, and the grey car pulled out in front of them. I think the lady was on a cell phone, I'm not sure though.

[Ronin2180]

@rykember11 Irresponsible driving of the Engine driver. Just my opinion.

[rykember11]

@Ronin2180 Just wondering, how do you come to the conclusion that it is irresponsible?

[Ronin2180]

@rykember11 Barely slowing down. If that car wasn't there, do you really think the driver would've touched the brakes at all? Always clear the intersection against a red!

[rykember11]

@Ronin2180 He slowed down. It doesn't look like it in the video from the angle I was at and it being on a hill. And I have seen this driver driving before and he is a very cautious one. 

[MrScary5150]

As an E/O, this was piss poor intersection work by that apparatus. He certainly would have been at fault had a collision occurred. If he did slow down, it was imperceptible and he certainly didn't slow down enough to stop completely if needed. For all of the grief we give the public for not doing what they're supposed to do, we need to own up as well when we fuck up

[CyanoticFuture]

@Tower2649 Sorry, if Im not making perfect sense, im rushing through my responses, im making about 3 at a time, plus were limited to a measly 500 characters...

[CyanoticFuture]

@Tower2649 Im saying, people think that emergency operators should never , ever get into a wreck, and some emergency operators themselves somehow got the notion that any wreck they get into, especially while using lights / sirens, or if a fatality is involved , is automatically their fault because of this " higher standard" . Im saying , if youre using a good amount of reasonable due regard, and a wreck occurs, this notion and perception of auto fault is complete bullshit

[CyanoticFuture]

@Tower2649 And Im not even blasting the driver of the gray car, because he did exactly thing also, so I dont know why people are blasting him....youre making a left on green, not expecting a fire engine to approach, it catches you by surprise, and you stop, just like the gray car driver did, because he was paying attention and not taking the left turn like race car driver....so Im saying ,while everything may be dne better per say, all drivers here did what was expected of them.

[CyanoticFuture]

@Tower2649 Blowing through , or at least not almost crawling through if you dont totally stop at an intersection ,against a light or stop sign, or going 15-20 MPH over the speed limit, are some examples of not using due regard.Outside of these and a few other perimeters, again, that higher standard stuff, means nothing.That is reality,because higher standard only means youre allowed to do things other arent and expected to do safely,but even then, accidents can happen.

[Tower2649]

@CyanoticFuture You've lost me now. Don't know where you're going with this.

[CyanoticFuture]

@Tower2649 because everyone, even highly trained pros, makes mistakes, errors, and misjudgements, and saying you shouldnt have done that because of your higher standard is not a legal, and often not even rational argument

[CyanoticFuture]

@Tower2649 Ill tell what Ive seen in real life, alot of that " higher standard" stuff is hot baloney.That higher standard means we dont break, nor bend the rules when you exceed the speed limit or go through a red light after stopping and clearing, because those rules dont apply to us, But we are to do such with total due regard. In court, unless due regard wasnt used, that higher standard stuff is fluff and words, nothing you can use to actually convict anyone

[Tower2649]

@CyanoticFuture However, being the one with the superior training, you are held to a higher standard and need to respect the laws in place to protect us against Average Joe in his toyota camry. Yes driving code to emergencies takes a lot of judgement calls and "bending the rules than the average person. We've seen how terrible some drivers are when we're going on these calls. I'm not saying this engineer was irresponsible, but why not cover your own ass for when the end result isn't as favorable